Big Blue Huddle

https://x.com/rydunleavy/status/1927737797919625270?t=kVpuKIxix-7N0e3CbMS7rQ&s=19

https://x.com/art_stapleton/status/1927739040054300994?t=dK3nGWfagWDn1hCM9J9d9w&s=19

https://x.com/TalkinGiants/status/1927740287310245939?t=PK1U-Kb1d4h7dSbQrb3wsQ&s=19

https://x.com/GiantInsider/status/1927734441666859387?t=lz687ND02RAC9WkTcKEtBA&s=19

https://x.com/art_stapleton/status/1927734694340153799?t=dPnzkVrkEP6VmQ7e9J2bRg&s=19

https://x.com/Connor_J_Hughes/status/1927738763788046703

https://x.com/PLeonardNYDN/status/1927733269136613616?t=fvtaxn4X7tM4L0PHviT1jQ&s=19

https://x.com/rydunleavy/status/1927733969505714306?t=fvtaxn4X7tM4L0PHviT1jQ&s=19

https://x.com/SNYGiants/status/1927734526345662951?t=fvtaxn4X7tM4L0PHviT1jQ&s=19

https://x.com/GiantInsider/status/1927736570355863872?t=fvtaxn4X7tM4L0PHviT1jQ&s=19

https://x.com/TalkinGiants/status/1927742039900217382

https://x.com/PLeonardNYDN/status/1927741787654820330

https://x.com/Gridiron_Media_/status/1927463370866745761?t=a4_kCGzRhOV8jIcJb5axYg&s=19

https://x.com/Connor_J_Hughes/status/1927733045211099424?t=a4_kCGzRhOV8jIcJb5axYg&s=19

https://x.com/rydunleavy/status/1927735104547291399?t=a4_kCGzRhOV8jIcJb5axYg&s=19

https://x.com/JordanRaanan/status/1927754894301126781

https://x.com/BobbySkinner_/status/1927743586277179446?t=hRKeb4rPvq0XKCAWLmGX7g&s=19

Kafka calling plays

https://x.com/art_stapleton/status/1927749524342108519?t=hRKeb4rPvq0XKCAWLmGX7g&s=19

Connor Hughes
@Connor_J_Hughes
#Giants starting offense (mind you some guys aren't practicing)

QB: Russell Wilson
RB: Devin Singletary
TE: Theo Johnson
WR: Darius Slayton, Jalin Hyatt, Wan'Dale Robinson
OL: Hudson, Stinne, JMS, Van Roten, Eluemunor

The defense (some guys not working)

DL: Burns, Riley, Chatman, Nunez-Roches, Kayvon
LB: McFadden, Okereke
CB: Banks, Phillips, Adebo
S: Holland, Nubin

https://x.com/Connor_J_Hughes/status/1927744490212565240

Connor Hughes
@Connor_J_Hughes
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14m
Stats for #Giants QBs off first media-open OTA

Russell Wilson: 1 of 4, TD in 7o7 || 5 of 7, 3 TD in 11o11

Jameis Winston: 1 of 3, INT || 5 of 10, 4 TD

Jaxson Dart: 1 of 3, TD || 2 of 3, 2 TD, INT, 2 rushing TDs

Tommy DeVito: 1 of 1, TD || 2 of 3, 2 TDs

Should be noted: All team drills (7o7, 11o11) were run from the 10 yard line and in. That's why there are an abundance of TDs. Many of them were in flat to backs or TEs who took them in.

Prettiest TDs were the Russell Wilson fade to Darius Slayton and the Jaxson Dart TD over Okereke to Jalin Hyatt.

Connor Hughes
@Connor_J_Hughes
#Giants practice is over.

Final team drill QB rep breakdown (7o7 & 11o11).

Russell Wilson: 15 reps, all with starters
Jameis Winston: 15 reps, all with backups
Jaxson Dart: 14 reps, 3 with starters
Tommy DeVito: 4 reps, all with reserve team

Rich


Just curious

Is there 12 guys on D because it's OTA's


Dan

Quote from: Dumpster Dan on May 28, 2025, 12:21:10 PMRich


Just curious

Is there 12 guys on D because it's OTA's


Dan

Good eye, Dan

My guess is Conner listed 5 D-line because the DIs were rotating in and out (between Reilly, Nacho, and Chapman)

Quote from: Dumpster Dan on May 28, 2025, 12:21:10 PMRich


Just curious

Is there 12 guys on D because it's OTA's


Dan

The 3 biggest takeaways from OTAs today Dan was that Dart is getting some 1s reps, Kafka is calling plays, and Abdul is Infact taking MLB reps on early downs, and pass rushing on passing downs.

Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
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11m
Nothing for Andrew Thomas to prove in OTAs. Stay healthy.

So 1st two #NYGiants OLs today:

1s
LT James Hudson
LG Jon Runyan Jr.
C John Michael Schmitz
RG Greg Van Roten
RT Jermaine Eluemunor

2s
LT Josh Ezeudu
LG Evan Neal
C Austin Schlottmann
RG Jake Kubas
RT Marcus Mbow

https://x.com/GiantInsider/status/1927766423465517285

https://x.com/EvinKnowsBall/status/1927739438618014052?t=NtpgJztJfLUV44qmYCln6w&s=19

https://x.com/FiresideGiants/status/1927740665179337170?t=NtpgJztJfLUV44qmYCln6w&s=19

https://x.com/RalphVacchiano/status/1927758579399876772?t=NtpgJztJfLUV44qmYCln6w&s=19

https://x.com/MarshallGreen_/status/1927466696517824539?t=NtpgJztJfLUV44qmYCln6w&s=19

Adebo was the first player on the field today so thought I'd show him some love.

Quote from: MightyGiants on May 28, 2025, 12:55:16 PMhttps://x.com/GiantInsider/status/1927766423465517285

I think that tells you all you need to know about how they feel about Neal. If you are going to let him try guard, try RG were he could actually make a difference if he is good.

I love them moving Mbow around, i see Jim as the 6th man on this line, or first up at a multiple positions.

Quote from: Jclayton92 on May 28, 2025, 12:59:41 PMI think that tells you all you need to know about how they feel about Neal. If you are going to let him try guard, try RG were he could actually make a difference if he is good.

I love them moving Mbow around, i see Jim as the 6th man on this line, or first up at a multiple positions.

It doesn't sound like Daboll has a lot of optimism.


Q: It's been reported that Evan Neal is converting to guard. He played that position, albeit on the left side, in college. How much of a learning curve is there now at this level plus playing on the right side for him?

Daboll: Evan's a smart guy. He'll be out here today. We will work him at guard and I know he's excited about the opportunity he has.

Q: What do you see in his skillset that can translate to an inside position?

Daboll: Yeah, look, he's a big man. He's got length, he's obviously a little bit taller than I'd say traditional guards, but he's played it. He's played a number of positions since he's been at University of Alabama.

He's been working hard this last month and a half and look forward to getting him out there.

https://x.com/Anthony_Rivardo/status/1927802948035154177?t=GE9qE9SW63pj-stPt5C8TQ&s=19

https://x.com/kayvont/status/1927776272714805691?t=GE9qE9SW63pj-stPt5C8TQ&s=19

https://x.com/GiantsNationPod/status/1927804053184000059?t=GE9qE9SW63pj-stPt5C8TQ&s=19

https://x.com/JustinPenik/status/1927806414564598209?t=GE9qE9SW63pj-stPt5C8TQ&s=19

Dart has touch too. He can make power throws..oh geeze not like Josh Allen or Mahomes .Herbert..etc..but he doesnt have to all the time..

He has confidence and moxie based on what I've seen. And can move successfully. Off platform throws are the specialty of Hall of Famers. Not hyping him..but he has the ability to be an effective QB..wow would that be agreeable?

https://x.com/GiantsNationPod/status/1927803661968654752?t=vHwagSBAoo6izeCnojW3Bg&s=19

https://x.com/MarshallGreen_/status/1927805986103828731?t=vHwagSBAoo6izeCnojW3Bg&s=19

https://x.com/TalkinGiants/status/1927770226122195203?t=vHwagSBAoo6izeCnojW3Bg&s=19

https://x.com/JefePil/status/1927749615836688891?t=vHwagSBAoo6izeCnojW3Bg&s=19

https://x.com/Anthony_Rivardo/status/1927442250469929147?t=vHwagSBAoo6izeCnojW3Bg&s=19

https://x.com/art_stapleton/status/1927838180075598170?t=vHwagSBAoo6izeCnojW3Bg&s=19

https://x.com/BBUGiants/status/1927808624996343982?t=vHwagSBAoo6izeCnojW3Bg&s=19

Belton, McFadden, and Nubin with picks today and the defense seems to have a booty chest, or pirate chest to put turnovers in.

Also Thibs has a tuck esq mask now and Burns spida visor is really cool. I didn't see one picture of Carter today or Skattebo. They just released the odds and Carter is the favorite for DROY.

Hyatt running with the 1s all day. Now is his time to take advantage. I think they should move him to the slot.

Quote from: MightyGiants on May 28, 2025, 12:54:43 PMArt Stapleton
@art_stapleton
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11m
Nothing for Andrew Thomas to prove in OTAs. Stay healthy.

So 1st two #NYGiants OLs today:

1s
LT James Hudson
LG Jon Runyan Jr.
C John Michael Schmitz
RG Greg Van Roten
RT Jermaine Eluemunor

2s
LT Josh Ezeudu
LG Evan Neal
C Austin Schlottmann
RG Jake Kubas
RT Marcus Mbow

I'm sorry to be the downer amongst all the optimism, but the OL - top to bottom - is a train wreck.

Even with AT in there, there are still questions on 3 out of 5 starters. And none of the backups do anything for me. Mbow could be something, but I don't expect anything out of him this year. And I know some have hopes for Kubas, but right now he's a JAG.

Biggest failure of the draft was to not add starting-worthy talent to the worst position group on the team.

Seems like like people forgot before the injuries hit this was a top 10 OL last year. And now we have a bit of depth with Mbow and Hudson

Quote from: Stringer Bell on May 28, 2025, 06:46:26 PMI'm sorry to be the downer amongst all the optimism, but the OL - top to bottom - is a train wreck.

Even with AT in there, there are still questions on 3 out of 5 starters. And none of the backups do anything for me. Mbow could be something, but I don't expect anything out of him this year. And I know some have hopes for Kubas, but right now he's a JAG.

Biggest failure of the draft was to not add starting-worthy talent to the worst position group on the team.

The value wasn't there in the 3rd or 4th and the best FAs had huge problems, Fries the Colts guard got crazy money from the Vikings with a broken leg. Eluemunor can play LT and Mbow could fill any other position if we have injuries. We are in a significantly better place with the line today than we were even last year. I wouldn't take a reach at tackle or guard over Alexander or over Skattebo.

https://x.com/MadelynBurke/status/1927762468115202128?t=fjq1nYc4ykaT2Ohwem5_wQ&s=19

https://x.com/Dan_Salomone/status/1927789637377958056?t=fjq1nYc4ykaT2Ohwem5_wQ&s=19

https://x.com/MarshallGreen_/status/1927806262936297738?t=fjq1nYc4ykaT2Ohwem5_wQ&s=19

https://x.com/BobbySkinner_/status/1927828777419059446?t=fjq1nYc4ykaT2Ohwem5_wQ&s=19

https://x.com/SNYGiants/status/1927741216919024117?t=fjq1nYc4ykaT2Ohwem5_wQ&s=19

https://x.com/WilkesKan82626/status/1927463841182478567?t=fjq1nYc4ykaT2Ohwem5_wQ&s=19

https://x.com/art_stapleton/status/1927831527154401338?t=fjq1nYc4ykaT2Ohwem5_wQ&s=19

https://x.com/PLeonardNYDN/status/1927741787654820330?t=fjq1nYc4ykaT2Ohwem5_wQ&s=19

Carter, Alexander, Tracey, and Nabers didn't practice.

https://x.com/giants/status/1927871393267347804?s=46&t=1vcQIN8GqF5J2oLdxEVEJQ

Quote from: MightyGiants on May 28, 2025, 07:37:03 PMhttps://x.com/giants/status/1927871393267347804?s=46&t=1vcQIN8GqF5J2oLdxEVEJQ

I was waiting for this video

https://bsky.app/profile/edvalentine.bsky.social/post/3lqagkrbbfc2p

Love the 1 on 1 time Dart is getting with Daboll.

Quote from: Jclayton92 on May 28, 2025, 12:11:37 PMhttps://x.com/BobbySkinner_/status/1927743586277179446?t=hRKeb4rPvq0XKCAWLmGX7g&s=19

2 years ago when he was calling plays it seems stale and not tailor made for the qb, a lot of the same thing. Reason Brian took over last year, then again, another bad offensive year.

Quote from: DragonSoul on May 28, 2025, 09:47:35 PM2 years ago when he was calling plays it seems stale and not tailor made for the qb, a lot of the same thing. Reason Brian took over last year, then again, another bad offensive year.

2023 they had Hodgins, Slayton, rookie Wandale, and a broken Waller. Thomas was injured so it was Ezeudu, Brederson, rookie JMS, Mckethan, Neal with Jones... At the beginning of that season if you remember everyone had solved Jones, and his half field reads, the offense broke because of the line and Jones, there was nothing Kafka could do after a masterful first season squeezing everything he could out of Jones.

Quote from: Jclayton92 on May 28, 2025, 10:39:03 PM2023 they had Hodgins, Slayton, rookie Wandale, and a broken Waller. Thomas was injured so it was Ezeudu, Brederson, rookie JMS, Mckethan, Neal with Jones... At the beginning of that season if you remember everyone had solved Jones, and his half field reads, the offense broke because of the line and Jones, there was nothing Kafka could do after a masterful first season squeezing everything he could out of Jones.

I'd like to see him calling the plays on the field.

In honor of @Doc16LT56

**Calling Plays on the Field:**

**Pros:**
- **Real-Time Read:** The play caller can see the defense's alignment and adjustments directly, allowing for immediate responses.
- **Immediate Communication:** Can quickly relay corrections or adjustments based on the physical presence and motions of players.
- **Personal Connection:** Easier to communicate with players directly, which can enhance clarity and confidence.

**Cons:**
- **Distractions:** Being on the field means dealing with more noise, chaos, and distractions that can impair focus.
- **Limited View:** The play caller's perspective is narrower; they might miss the full defensive scheme or formations.
- **Physical Demands:** Being on the sideline can be physically demanding and less comfortable during game flow.

**Calling Plays Upstairs (in the Booth):**

**Pros:**
- **Better Perspective:** Elevated view provides a comprehensive look at formations, coverage, and defensive shifts.
- **Communication Tools:** Modern headsets and technology facilitate clear, efficient communication with the quarterback and sidelines.
- **Less Distraction:** Less noise and chaos allow for better concentration and strategic thinking.

**Cons:**
- **Latency:** Slight delays in communication can occur, leading to potential misunderstandings or slower adjustments.
- **Less Immediate Feedback:** Misses some real-time body language or subtle cues from players on the field.
- **Dependency on Technology:** Reliance on communication systems, which can sometimes malfunction.

**Summary:** 
Calling plays on the field offers immediacy and directness but can be hampered by chaos and limited views. Calling from upstairs provides a broader perspective and clearer visuals but may introduce communication delays. Many teams prefer a hybrid approach, using upstairs for strategic oversight and on-field for quick decision-making when necessary.

https://x.com/art_stapleton/status/1928086948029030623

PRACTICE NOTES...
Some snippets from various media sources:

• Players were in helmets, light pads, and shorts.
• It appeared that Offensive Coordinator Mike Kafka was calling the offensive plays.
• In red-zone, 7-on-7 drills, QB Russell Wilson was 1-of-4, with one drop by TE Theo Johnson and a touchdown to RB Eric Gray. Providing good pass defense in this series was CB Deonte Banks, ILB Micah McFadden, and S Jevon Holland.
• In the same drills, QB Jameis Winston was picked off by S Dane Belton after it was bobbled by WR Zach Pascal, which would have been returned for a touchdown. Winston was 1-of-3.
• In the same drills, QB Jaxson Dart was 1-of-3 with a touchdown to WR Antwane Wells. QB Tommy DeVito threw a touchdown on his one attempt to WR Jordan Bly.
• The starting offensive line was LT James Hudson, LG Aaron Stinnie, OC John Michael Schmitz, RG Greg Van Roten, and RT Jermaine Eluemunor.
• The second-team offensive line was LT Josh Ezeudu, LG Evan Neal, OC Austin Schlottmann, RG Jake Kubas, and RB Marcus Mbow.
• The starting wideouts were Darius Slayton, Jalin Hyatt, and Wan'Dale Robinson.
• Devin Singletary started at running back.
• The starting defensive tackles were Jordan Riley, Rakeem Nunez-Roches, and Elijah Chatman.
• The starting outside linebackers were Brian Burns and Kayvon Thibodeaux.
• The starting corners were Tae Banks, Paulson Adebo, and Andru Phillips; the starting safeties were Tyler Nubin and Jevon Holland.
• In 11-on-11, red-zone drills, Russell Wilson was 5-of-7 with three touchdowns. Wilson threw a touchdown pass to WR Darius Slayton on a perfectly-placed fade over CB Andru Phillips.
• In the same drills, Jameis Winston was 5-of-10 with four touchdowns, including to wideouts Darius Slayton, Jalin Hyatt, and Montrell Washington as well as tight end Greg Dulcich.
• In the same drills, Jaxson Dart was 2-of-3. His first throw was with the starting offense and was a rollout touchdown pass to a leaping WR Jalin Hyatt at the back of the end zone over OLB Bobby Okereke. He threw another touchdown to RB Dante Miller and ran for two more, but he was also picked off by ILB Micah McFadden on the last play of practice (possible pick-6).
• In the same drills, Tommy DeVito was 2-of-3 with two touchdown passes, both to WR Jordan Bly.
• Abdul Carter played both ILB and OLB during the same 11-on-11 goal-line series.
• While three of Jaxson Dart's 14 reps were with the starters, all of Russell Wilson's 15 reps were with the first unit. Jameis Winston's 15 reps came with the second unit. Tommy DeVito only received four reps.
• OLB Brian Burns chased down a quarterback for a "sack."
• S Dane Belton made a tackle for a loss on a quarterback run.

https://bigblueinteractive.com/2025/05/28/may-28-2025-new-york-giants-ota-practice-report/

Quote from: Jclayton92 on May 28, 2025, 10:39:03 PM2023 they had Hodgins, Slayton, rookie Wandale, and a broken Waller. Thomas was injured so it was Ezeudu, Brederson, rookie JMS, Mckethan, Neal with Jones... At the beginning of that season if you remember everyone had solved Jones, and his half field reads, the offense broke because of the line and Jones, there was nothing Kafka could do after a masterful first season squeezing everything he could out of Jones.

It seemed that year he didn't tailor it to jones strengths as he did the year before, it was more of copy and paste. And as we talked about with Dart and other qbs recently. They said it fine and generally what most qbs do is read half the field for progressions, the major factor is if you are reading the correct part of the field. Then again as you mentioned with all those issues above, it would be tough for any qb to over come.

Moving forward I want tailored plays for the qb and vs the teams they are going for. Not the same copy and paste like we had with Ben coaching and all we did was 3 wide nearly 98% of the time.

Quote from: DragonSoul on May 29, 2025, 11:53:06 AMIt seemed that year he didn't tailor it to jones strengths as he did the year before, it was more of copy and paste. And as we talked about with Dart and other qbs recently. They said it fine and generally what most qbs do is read half the field for progressions, the major factor is if you are reading the correct part of the field. Then again as you mentioned with all those issues above, it would be tough for any qb to over come.

Moving forward I want tailored plays for the qb and vs the teams they are going for. Not the same copy and paste like we had with Ben coaching and all we did was 3 wide nearly 98% of the time.

I was listening to Bobby Skinner's Giants Nation Show podcast.   He had Ryan Dunleavy on.  They were discussing the differences between Daboll calling plays and Kafka.  They felt that with Kafka, the offense was more customized to the team they were facing, while Daboll's game plans tended to be more generic.

Quote from: MightyGiants on May 29, 2025, 11:56:00 AMI was listening to Bobby Skinner's Giants Nation Show podcast.   He had Ryan Dunleavy on.  They were discussing the differences between Daboll calling plays and Kafka.  They felt that with Kafka, the offense was more customized to the team they were facing, while Daboll's game plans tended to be more generic.

I'm not sure "generic" is a good choice of words. More (probably) a better term would be that he game planned around the team's strengths (which there were precious few). Being able to game plan around the opposition's weaknesses assumes you have a team that can actually do so...competent in all the plays available. We're getting there...knock on wood...so maybe we can play Kafka style football and get some wins

Quote from: MightyGiants on May 29, 2025, 10:19:01 AMPRACTICE NOTES...
Some snippets from various media sources:

• Players were in helmets, light pads, and shorts.
• It appeared that Offensive Coordinator Mike Kafka was calling the offensive plays.
• In red-zone, 7-on-7 drills, QB Russell Wilson was 1-of-4, with one drop by TE Theo Johnson and a touchdown to RB Eric Gray. Providing good pass defense in this series was CB Deonte Banks, ILB Micah McFadden, and S Jevon Holland.
• In the same drills, QB Jameis Winston was picked off by S Dane Belton after it was bobbled by WR Zach Pascal, which would have been returned for a touchdown. Winston was 1-of-3.
• In the same drills, QB Jaxson Dart was 1-of-3 with a touchdown to WR Antwane Wells. QB Tommy DeVito threw a touchdown on his one attempt to WR Jordan Bly.
• The starting offensive line was LT James Hudson, LG Aaron Stinnie, OC John Michael Schmitz, RG Greg Van Roten, and RT Jermaine Eluemunor.
• The second-team offensive line was LT Josh Ezeudu, LG Evan Neal, OC Austin Schlottmann, RG Jake Kubas, and RB Marcus Mbow.
• The starting wideouts were Darius Slayton, Jalin Hyatt, and Wan'Dale Robinson.
• Devin Singletary started at running back.
• The starting defensive tackles were Jordan Riley, Rakeem Nunez-Roches, and Elijah Chatman.
• The starting outside linebackers were Brian Burns and Kayvon Thibodeaux.
• The starting corners were Tae Banks, Paulson Adebo, and Andru Phillips; the starting safeties were Tyler Nubin and Jevon Holland.
• In 11-on-11, red-zone drills, Russell Wilson was 5-of-7 with three touchdowns. Wilson threw a touchdown pass to WR Darius Slayton on a perfectly-placed fade over CB Andru Phillips.
• In the same drills, Jameis Winston was 5-of-10 with four touchdowns, including to wideouts Darius Slayton, Jalin Hyatt, and Montrell Washington as well as tight end Greg Dulcich.
• In the same drills, Jaxson Dart was 2-of-3. His first throw was with the starting offense and was a rollout touchdown pass to a leaping WR Jalin Hyatt at the back of the end zone over OLB Bobby Okereke. He threw another touchdown to RB Dante Miller and ran for two more, but he was also picked off by ILB Micah McFadden on the last play of practice (possible pick-6).
• In the same drills, Tommy DeVito was 2-of-3 with two touchdown passes, both to WR Jordan Bly.
• Abdul Carter played both ILB and OLB during the same 11-on-11 goal-line series.
• While three of Jaxson Dart's 14 reps were with the starters, all of Russell Wilson's 15 reps were with the first unit. Jameis Winston's 15 reps came with the second unit. Tommy DeVito only received four reps.
• OLB Brian Burns chased down a quarterback for a "sack."
• S Dane Belton made a tackle for a loss on a quarterback run.

https://bigblueinteractive.com/2025/05/28/may-28-2025-new-york-giants-ota-practice-report/

I'm wondering how long all these TD passes were. That's a lot of TD passes. Winston had a couple of passes picked because the Receiver bobbled the throw, and wondering if this has to do with him again rifling in passes or is it passes off the mark. Dart had a couple of picks that may have been in Zone coverage and I'm wondering if he was fooled by disguise.

I also think there is one QB too many in these 7/7 and 11/11s, but it's an asset in the other drills.

They are giving Dart some good opportunities with the ones.

I also wonder if the Defense is being held back to give some confidence that the Offense.

Not a lot of detailed information by these reporters. Formation, motion, routes????

Have you read into anything, Rich?

Quote from: Ed Vette on May 29, 2025, 12:36:23 PMI'm wondering how long all these TD passes were. That's a lot of TD passes. Winston had a couple of passes picked because the Receiver bobbled the throw, and wondering if this has to do with him again rifling in passes or is it passes off the mark. Dart had a couple of picks that may have been in Zone coverage and I'm wondering if he was fooled by disguise.

I also think there is one QB too many in these 7/7 and 11/11s, but it's an asset in the other drills.

They are giving Dart some good opportunities with the ones.

I also wonder if the Defense is being held back to give some confidence that the Offense.

Not a lot of detailed information by these reporters. Formation, motion, routes????

Have you read into anything, Rich?

As you know from camp, Daboll likes to start his practices close to the goal line and work out.  That way guys get acclimated before they start to run deep routes (or cover deeper routes)

Quote from: MightyGiants on May 29, 2025, 12:40:21 PMAs you know from camp, Daboll likes to start his practices close to the goal line and work out.  That way guys get acclimated before they start to run deep routes (or cover deeper routes)

Good point and that's what the limited films showed. Too bad they keep the media in that same corner but change the direction. Art did a film clip 80 yards away.

Quote from: Ed Vette on May 29, 2025, 12:43:52 PMGood point and that's what the limited films showed. Too bad they keep the media in that same corner but change the direction. Art did a film clip 80 yards away.

According to reports from Ryan Dunleavy and others, the squad was split into two.  For most of the snaps, the starters and top backups worked with Wilson and Winston, while the remainder of the squad worked with Dart and DeVito.

Quote from: MightyGiants on May 29, 2025, 12:47:30 PMAccording to reports from Ryan Dunleavy and others, the squad was split into two.  For most of the snaps, the starters and top backups worked with Wilson and Winston, while the remainder of the squad worked with Dart and DeVito.

Ahh... so they worked both endzones.

Quote from: Ed Vette on May 29, 2025, 12:50:18 PMAhh... so they worked both endzones.

I think 7 on 7 were all together and 11 on 11 was split into two sides of the field.

Frustrates me a little that Singletary is still getting the 1s reps when Tracey clearly showed significantly more and you have a Heisman finalist you just drafted.

I do like that they are moving Mbow around to see where he best fits. I could see a scenario were Kubas takes over RG next year and Mbow takes over RT so they don't have to pay Elemunor, though I'd like him back because I am enjoying the depth rn. If Mbow takes off like we all hope he can, Eluemunor could be the best swing lineman in the NFL being able to play LT, RG, and RT at a high level.

I understand RNR, Riley, and Chatman know the system but I'd rather all our FAs get those 1 reps Golston, Robertson-Harris, and Ledbetter.

Despite Okereke being on the outs for the organization, I think he could be a huge deciding factor on how well the D does.

I almost feel bad for Micah McFadden because he played his ass off last year, but I am all on board with Carter getting Off ball linebacker reps spying these mobile qbs or trailing elite TEs on early downs. Do you know what the typical breakdown is for 1st team/2nd team edges in a live game? Will all 3 of our elite edges get enough snaps to warrant having all 3 or will we be wasting them?

First prediction of the season- Nubin is going to be elite in the SS role, and with Manuel being the coach that he is, I could see us being a top 10 secondary by seasons end if we have no injuries.

Quote from: Jclayton92 on May 29, 2025, 01:19:08 PMI think 7 on 7 were all together and 11 on 11 was split into two sides of the field.

Frustrates me a little that Singletary is still getting the 1s reps when Tracey clearly showed significantly more and you have a Heisman finalist you just drafted.

I do like that they are moving Mbow around to see where he best fits. I could see a scenario were Kubas takes over RG next year and Mbow takes over RT so they don't have to pay Elemunor, though I'd like him back because I am enjoying the depth rn. If Mbow takes off like we all hope he can, Eluemunor could be the best swing lineman in the NFL being able to play LT, RG, and RT at a high level.

I understand RNR, Riley, and Chatman know the system but I'd rather all our FAs get those 1 reps Golston, Robertson-Harris, and Ledbetter.

Despite Okereke being on the outs for the organization, I think he could be a huge deciding factor on how well the D does.

I almost feel bad for Micah McFadden because he played his ass off last year, but I am all on board with Carter getting Off ball linebacker reps spying these mobile qbs or trailing elite TEs on early downs. Do you know what the typical breakdown is for 1st team/2nd team edges in a live game? Will all 3 of our elite edges get enough snaps to warrant having all 3 or will we be wasting them?

First prediction of the season- Nubin is going to be elite in the SS role, and with Manuel being the coach that he is, I could see us being a top 10 secondary by seasons end if we have no injuries.

Jess,

For whatever reason, Tracy wasn't practicing yesterday.  With a reported 100% attendance, there was something that held him back.  Perhaps the stomach bug that impacted some of the team.

Quote from: MightyGiants on May 29, 2025, 01:21:40 PMJess,

For whatever reason, Tracy wasn't practicing yesterday.  With a reported 100% attendance, there was something that held him back.  Perhaps the stomach bug that impacted some of the team.

I remember hearing that and didn't file it away. It is crazy that we have so much added talent to this team that Skattebo, Mbow, Golston, Ledbetter, and Carter never really got pictured or mentioned yesterday.

Quote from: Jclayton92 on May 28, 2025, 12:59:41 PMI think that tells you all you need to know about how they feel about Neal. If you are going to let him try guard, try RG were he could actually make a difference if he is good.

I love them moving Mbow around, i see Jim as the 6th man on this line, or first up at a multiple positions.

I know RG is a pressing need, but Neal started all 13 games at left guard during his freshman year in 2019 before moving to right tackle in 2020. If we are trying to get the last chance out of Neal, wouldn't it make sense to put him at LG?

Quote from: Jclayton92 on May 29, 2025, 01:19:08 PMI think 7 on 7 were all together and 11 on 11 was split into two sides of the field.

Frustrates me a little that Singletary is still getting the 1s reps when Tracey clearly showed significantly more and you have a Heisman finalist you just drafted.
Tracy has been out with an Illness, as I saw it reported.

I do like that they are moving Mbow around to see where he best fits. I could see a scenario were Kubas takes over RG next year and Mbow takes over RT so they don't have to pay Elemunor, though I'd like him back because I am enjoying the depth rn. If Mbow takes off like we all hope he can, Eluemunor could be the best swing lineman in the NFL being able to play LT, RG, and RT at a high level.
I think they like Kubas. I was surprised that they moved Neal to LG instead of RG The LG frequently pulls, and the Strong Side is often the Offensive Right. Daboll called a pretty balanced Run Direction, although slightly more to the right. I think Eluemunor may be the most valuable player on that line, factoring in availability and diversification. I would be surprised if he wasn't a starter.

I understand RNR, Riley, and Chatman know the system but I'd rather all our FAs get those 1 reps Golston, Robertson-Harris, and Ledbetter.
Perhaps this early, they are starting out with those who know the lay of the land.

Despite Okereke being on the outs for the organization, I think he could be a huge deciding factor on how well the D does.
He was pretty good in Run Defense last season compared to 2023. He was however in a higher % of Coverage in 2024 and less in Pass Rush. His Pass Rush Grade, however, was very good in 2024 compared to 2023. He also missed 4 games last season due to injury. 

I almost feel bad for Micah McFadden because he played his ass off last year, but I am all on board with Carter getting Off ball linebacker reps spying these mobile qbs or trailing elite TEs on early downs. Do you know what the typical breakdown is for 1st team/2nd team edges in a live game? Will all 3 of our elite edges get enough snaps to warrant having all 3 or will we be wasting them?
I like McFadden in making big plays with a nose for the ball, but he's an overall poor tackler and not great in Coverage. I think in order for the best players to get on the field, Carter will have Off ball duties. Thibs and Burns were on the field mostly last season, and Ojulari spotted Thibs. I think Carter will be splitting with Thibs and moved inside at times. 

First prediction of the season- Nubin is going to be elite in the SS role, and with Manuel being the coach that he is, I could see us being a top 10 secondary by seasons end if we have no injuries.

I agree and the Giants may have one of the best safety combinations in the League.

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With Dart, this gives off Aura or Swag, could you imagine DJ doing this. We'd be laughing at it but with Dart it is cool. Jones doing it would remind me of those Brian Kelly clips of him dancing with players.

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