I've been sitting on this story for quite a while, and since it's the dead time of the season, I'll share, so there is at least something for you guys to read and ponder
A puff piece from a paid site:
"There is light at the end of this dark NFL tunnel now for Jalin Hyatt. He hasn't resembled the skinny, raw project who was drafted in 2023 to be a lethal vertical threat at Giants OTAs. His time is now or never, and he seems to know it. His body language is different. That athletic arrogance from his college days at Tennessee has returned. Teammates see a man on a mission.
Hold the bust talk, Giants fans. Jalin Hyatt is making his move. The light bulb has come on. And when he turns sideways now, you can actually see him.
'He came back swoled up, so he put on a good about 15, 20 pounds, I think,' Darius Slayton said. 'So, he's definitely been stronger, he looks bigger, he looks stronger and that's definitely helped his game some, and I think he's definitely made strides so far this spring.'
Hyatt is still listed at 6-foot, 185 pounds, but it will either have to be updated or it is a different 185.
'The weight helps in a lot of factors as far as being able to keep defenders off you, play body contact, contact balance, those types of things, but I think he's also grown a little bit mentally, and just kind of refining some of the other areas of his game,' Slayton said.
Hyatt was miserable when the 2024 season ended. He was the Invisible Man — eight catches for 62 yards, and no touchdowns. He was not his happy-go-lucky self and was terse, offering clipped answers on Baggie Day.
'I ain't gonna say he looks bigger, but he definitely is bigger, like he's playing bigger. You can tell there's a different type of energy about him and how he's going about it,' Tyrone Tracy Jr. 'He's gonna be as good as he wants to be, and he wants to be great.'
GM Joe Schoen traded up for Hyatt in the third round. You better believe that he and coach Brian Daboll want him to be great, too. Or at the very least, a dependable option for Russell Wilson.
'Jalin told me that he's mentally locked down, like he's ready to go each and every day,' Tracy said. 'And not necessarily something different from last year, but it's more so like you can tell he is taking a step forward this year. He's coming out here every day, he's making plays, he's being vocal. He's trying to make sure that this year is his best year.'
It helps that Wilson has been talking up Hyatt. It also helps that Wilson throws a beautiful moonball for Hyatt to run under with his 4.4 speed. The deep ball was not Daniel Jones' strength.
'I feel like he's a really explosive player,' cornerback Paulson Adebo said. 'He's been doing a great job this OTA camp. Definitely impressed with him.'
Schoen traded the 89th and 128th picks in 2023 to the Rams to secure Hyatt with the 73rd pick. Schoen could imagine the possibilities inside Neyland Stadium the day Hyatt exploded on the national scene with his five-TD game in Tennessee's 52-49 upset of Nick Saban's Alabama in 2022.
Hyatt was pictured puffing on a postgame cigar with a famous Rocky Top Volunteer: 'You're a legend,' Peyton Manning told Hyatt.
Patience is often a virtue when receivers do not get off to legendary NFL starts. Davante Adams caught 39 for 446 yards and three TDs and then 50-483-1 in his first two seasons with Aaron Rodgers in Green Bay. Antonio Brown started three games in his first two seasons in Pittsburgh and caught just two TDs. Even Jerry Rice (49-927-3) started just four games as a rookie. Not everyone is Malik Nabers. Or Odell Beckham Jr.
'He's done a nice job for us this camp,' Daboll said of Hyatt. 'He's trying to improve the things that we set out for him to improve. ... I think Russ has done a nice job of developing a relationship with Jalin. Russ sits in the front and Jalin sits right behind him, right next to Malik, right next to Wan'Dale [Robinson]. So, there's a lot of good communication flow with those guys.'
Hyatt needed to show more toughness, both physical and mental. He needed to improve his route running. He needed to improve his situational awareness.
'He's improved in really all facets of being a receiver,' Daboll said. 'And we're gonna need him to continue to do that in training camp.'
Remember, Hyatt is just 23."
Hope you're right about Hyatt. He will be one of the keys toward increasing our points per game.
This is an approximation, and it's thrown off if a team has a few games that are serious outliers, but for every point by which our offense improves its average points scored for the year, we can virtually count on winning one more game than last year (and as many as two more if we're extremely lucky). The average increases by one point for every 17 additional points they score over all (because there are 17 games in a season). Generally speaking, the NFL average last year was 22 and the Giants scored about 16. We picked third in the draft. The goal, considering our personnel on offense, should be to kick one extra field goal each game, which means one or two fewer costly penalties that kill drives and just a bit of improvement by each player.
Which brings me back to Hyatt (bet you thought I forgot about him). If he simply runs the correct routes, being a home run hitter in college, he can probably transform himself into that here in the NFL. He's still young, so it's highly unlikely he's losing any speed yet. The way I figure it (based on just two or three more targets per game than last season), if he only ran a couple of wrong routes per game, the team would score one-and-one-half to two more points per game this year (average) which should translate into two, and as many as six, extra wins, assuming no outliers (like if we scored 50 points in single game). And that is just ONE key man making a tiny bit of improvement that shows up consistently, game after game. Hard to do but not impossible.
Bob
You ever have a friend.... Their son didn't graduate high school. They are hovering around, and just not doing much... just playing video games. They got hooked on hard drugs for a bit. The parent wants to have something positive to go on, roots for their son. Someone says something nice about the kid and they just glow over it. They just lap it up like a man stuck out in a desert who just got handed a water bottle. They still have a deep rooted parental hope for this kid. But the people watching from a far know that ship has sailed long ago. 8 catches/62 yards in a lost season. Riding the bench in a lost season when they had nothing to lose by playing him. Pouting, zero impact.
I like Jolly Blue Giant, tons of knowledge and experience. I just don't see it all. I would love to be proved wrong too. All of this was sparked by our middle aged qb castoff who knew exactly how to get to us, by telling us about Jalin's potential. Just like a used car salesman at the car lot in a part of town you don't want to go who puts GPS on his used cars with 20% APR. . He got you hook line and sinker. He sold you. Let's see by week eight. If I am wrong I will donate to your favorite charity under your name. It's such garbage!!
Personally I hope he burns the corner /sarcasm/ :ok:
Quote from: Crypto Fareez on June 14, 2025, 08:05:26 PMYou ever have a friend.... Their son didn't graduate high school. They are hovering around, and just not doing much... just playing video games. They got hooked on hard drugs for a bit. The parent wants to have something positive to go on, roots for their son. Someone says something nice about the kid and they just glow over it. They just lap it up like a man stuck out in a desert who just got handed a water bottle. They still have a deep rooted parental hope for this kid. But the people watching from a far know that ship has sailed long ago. 8 catches/62 yards in a lost season. Riding the bench in a lost season when they had nothing to lose by playing him. Pouting, zero impact.
I like Jolly Blue Giant, tons of knowledge and experience. I just don't see it all. I would love to be proved wrong too. All of this was sparked by our middle aged qb castoff who knew exactly how to get to us, by telling us about Jalin's potential. Just like a used car salesman at the car lot in a part of town you don't want to go who puts GPS on his used cars with 20% APR. . He got you hook line and sinker. He sold you. Let's see by week eight. If I am wrong I will donate to your favorite charity under your name. It's such garbage!!
Thanks Joe, I like you too...LOL
I didn't write the analysis, nor agree with it. In fact, I called it a "puff piece", knowing full well it was a hype article. I only posted it as this time of the year there is little news to read or to argue about and it's the "dull season", so I threw it out there for people to respond, both positively or negatively...I don't care. I would be happy if Hyatt surprised me by being something much better than he's been. I still don't believe he can beat out Slayton for WR2, as I've pointed out many times on here, Slayton is faster, taller, longer than Hyatt, and is extremely disciplined in route-running with many years of NFL experience. He will be hard for Hyatt to topple for that number 2 spot unless he eats his spinach like Popeye, and transforms into Nabors 2.0
I do try to be positive, but it's that time of year. It's all bullcrap. I have had people telling me that Russ is better than Stafford, That Hyatt is gonna be Tyler Locket. Paul Dotino once told me that Evan Neal was gonna be Orlando Pace 🤣
When in your life has a player ever gotten offseason hyped for gaining weight and being better? Never. Its BS. This kid is a bum, and we all know once the shine wears off they won't use him and it will basically waste a roster spot. All those kids from Tennessee haven't panned out with their goofy offense and rotations. But yeah Jolly Blue Giant is belongs in the ring of honor. Great Giants fan. NYC icon! Not satire...there I said something positive for once 😅
Quote from: Crypto Fareez on June 15, 2025, 04:50:36 PMI do try to be positive, but it's that time of year. It's all bullcrap. I have had people telling me that Russ is better than Stafford, That Hyatt is gonna be Tyler Locket. Paul Dotino once told me that Evan Neal was gonna be Orlando Pace 🤣 [/b]
When in your life has a player ever gotten offseason hyped for gaining weight and being better? Never. Its BS. This kid is a bum, and we all know once the shine wears off they won't use him and it will basically waste a roster spot. All those kids from Tennessee haven't panned out with their goofy offense and rotations. But yeah Jolly Blue Giant is belongs in the ring of honor. Great Giants fan. NYC icon! Not satire...there I said something positive for once 😅
Thankfully, this place is pretty well grounded and most posters generally have evidenced based opinions - so we don't see such hyperbolic statements as the 3 you mention.
When the Cowboys signed Bob Hayes decades ago they realized they could not make him a route tree WR so they limited his routes to be straighter to use his speed and take advantage of what he can offer.
Can the Giants do something similar where they just accept what Hyatt cam do and limit his route tree yet use him effectively? He's got good hands and is quick.
Hyatt was working against the first team Defense at the OTAs. They had to be a mix of routes. They did a lot of Red Zone to my perception. Most likely he was covered by Banks and Flott. I would expect Slayton to be the number one.
I felt the area he needed to most improvement was his release off the LOS.
I don't recall him getting a lot of praise last year and through camp. I didn't see anything special from him at Camp.
I wonder if he was a piece they were looking to trade before or during the draft. Maybe all this praise by Daboll is to highlight him. Maybe not.
I'll be happy if he can be the third option. Anything is better than how he was wasted last season.
Quote from: Ed Vette on June 16, 2025, 10:08:24 AMHyatt was working against the first team Defense at the OTAs. They had to be a mix of routes. They did a lot of Red Zone to my perception. Most likely he was covered by Banks and Flott. I would expect Slayton to be the number one.
I felt the area he needed to most improvement was his release off the LOS.
I don't recall him getting a lot of praise last year and through camp. I didn't see anything special from him at Camp.
I wonder if he was a piece they were looking to trade before or during the draft. Maybe all this praise by Daboll is to highlight him. Maybe not.
I'll be happy if he can be the third option. Anything is better than how he was wasted last season.
Ed - is his release problem off the LOS due to him releasing late or getting jammed and being unable to break free of the CB?
Quote from: Philosophers on June 16, 2025, 01:31:17 PMEd - is his release problem off the LOS due to him releasing late or getting jammed and being unable to break free of the CB?
Unable to break free to get separation, and not necessarily being pressed. Running a 4.4 isn't an advantage anymore.
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#Giants QB Russell Wilson was asked what has stood out about WR Jalin Hyatt, and he gave a great answer. "I've got all the belief in Jalin and who he's going to be and what he's going to mean to us"
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