Big Blue Huddle

Can we please stop playing Lemieux

This game is over.... We should have took the 3 points earlier... dumbness after dumbness

What happened with JMS ... i was busy getting my kids ready for bed

This team is going to implode


Call a timeout just to get sh** together Daboll

This is exactly what I mean ... take the fken points

Quote from: MagicRat on October 02, 2023, 08:27:19 PMThink I'd have taken three but I'm not too upset at being aggressive (though the sneak was kinda half assed).
Now the D needs to ensure it's not a momentum shifter.

If this was last season I wouldn't be upset ... but this team isn't the same .... This can crush this team ... needed the points

Is Daboll calling the plays ?

Can't keep denying it

This is how the downfall always happens

Just take the fken points .... And the lead

Quote from: MightyGiants on September 26, 2023, 09:15:53 AMScreen passes would be a great counter.  Unfortunately, it's been many many years since the Giants had an effective screen game.  I have no idea why, but that issue goes back to the Coughlin and Eli Manning days.

My big issue with screen passes , is that 3 games in and for most of recent history the yardage gained is not major


Rather run on first down and see what the RB can do and let the defense know Giants arent one dimensional even if they are struggling with the run

Quote from: MightyGiants on September 26, 2023, 12:54:48 PMI am using PFF

Shep has played only 26 snaps out of the offense's 188 snaps


Now normally when a WR isn't playing that many snaps (despite being active all 3 games) they are a key special teams contributor.   Shep has taken zero special teams' snaps.

This sure looks like a waste of a valuable roster spot.

After week one they cut his snaps down... my issue with this is that Paris seems to be getting the huge chunk of the snaps at that spot... more snaps should be given to Wandale, Hyatt and some to shep

Quote from: Philosophers on September 22, 2023, 03:18:54 PMIt's a facts versus circumstances debate.  Sometimes a player simply is not producing results because of circumstances.  You can't draw conclusions just because of results.  A different environment, different scheme, different way a player is communicated to, may sometimes be the ingredients to produce a different result.

Geno Smith was a career journeyman ... suddenly in his 30's he had a pro bowl season .....

IDK why anyone is so quick to give up on someone like Simmons it makes absolutely zero sense

Like you said ... maybe a different scenery is needed

Quote from: kingm56 on September 22, 2023, 03:06:13 PMBJ Hill and Kennard evolved into playmakers/difference-makers?  That's news to me...

Both were good players while they were here and remained good players after they left.  I don't know if you recall, but the majority of this board was peeved when the Giants traded Hill for a failed 1st round center, who also failed to magically become better with a team change.  Like most transactions under DG tenure, it was a terrible trade. 

I highly suspect Simmons will continue to be the same player he was in Az; just like 99% of all players entering their 4th seasons.  He'll flash here and there, but I would not count on him to significantly alter our aggregate defense.  He's doesn't have those skillsets; again, there's a reason a team desperate for young talent let him walk.  Equally, there's a reason a team was only willing to part with a 7th round pick to secure his services; that pick is completely inconsequential as >80% of 7th round picks are out of the league in less than 2-years. 

The Giants acquired him to be a situational role player, not the cornerstone of our def.  I don't object to him playing more, I just don't believe it will make a materiel difference.  Finally, his size makes him a difficult player to fill a specific position.  So, who's playing time would you curtail to insert Simmons? 

Kennard became better after he left

And no one is asking Simmons to be elite... all im saying is give him a chance

I dont see how we can just give up on Simmons being a possible playmaker for us

If you think Flowers is a bad example

How about BJ Hill and Devon Kennard ?

Both were similar to Simmons in which they were just ehh starters or shown flashes ...go to new teams and look good ...

Difference is Simmons was obviously in a bad situation and misused

Its 3 games into the season ... I dont understand the negativity towards at least giving him a shot at a higher playcount

Quote from: kingm56 on September 22, 2023, 09:28:07 AMIsn't that the point?  From his snap count, the Giants are keeping him on the sideline.  So, clearly, they don't view him as a 'playmaker' either.  What I don't understand is why we think Simmons is a playmaker, when his prior and current team clearly don't.  He was brought in to be a situational player...he's fulfilling that role. There was a good reason we got him for a 7th round pick.  You

 They literally traded for him right before the season started, new playbook, no training camp... what like 3 snaps in preseason ?

We cant say that about Simmons without looking at players like Hyatt and Wandale... its a break in period obviously

Some of just feel he should be broken in even more

And we cant base everything off his old team

Dolphins turned flowers into a decent Guard... after being an atrocious Tackle with the Giants

Sometimes the grass is actually greener

Quote from: Ed Vette on September 22, 2023, 08:58:57 AMThey also need to give Hyatt other routes to run so he can be a larger part of this Offense. If they limit him to Go Routes and Posts, it reduces his playing time. Watch the All 22 when it's available. The Niners locked down the deep passes because there was no running game. The pass rush that ensued as a result gave Jones no time to wait for any deep pass to get open.

Yes , I see these catches that Paris was getting.... and was thinking if that was Hyatt he would def have more YAC