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Quote from: MightyGiants on December 01, 2022, 11:21:53 AM@Slugsy-Narrows

I am not sure what question you asked that I didn't address.  I know you just asked what my point was.  You raised the issue of the rights of the minority shouldn't trump the rights of the majority.  So I showed you that the majority of the nation wants stricter gun laws.

Also, I keep hearing the claim that it's illegal guns.  Well, here is a stat of the legality of the weapons used in mass shootings, I think it's safe to say it's not the illegal weapons that are the issue

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I will also play the if I were king game.  If I were king, owning a gun would be on par with owning and using an automobile.  You would need to get licensed, you would need insurance (who would regulate owners to keep their guns secure and used properly), and you could lose your license if you don't use your firearms in a safe, legal manner.

I was stating shootings in general , not mass shootings

Either way mental health is the main issue with a mass shooting, if someone wants to shootup a school full of kids that is def a mental health issue .... No one is shooting up a school to over turf wars , drugs, or street cred... it's because someone has a mental issue

And I agree we should have licensing and stuff.... But the gun isn't the issue there legally or illegally owned

Quote from: MightyGiants on December 01, 2022, 08:10:12 AMI have a question for the pro-gun people on this thread.   If we play the game- if you were king

How would you stop all the mass shootings and reduce the number of single shootings?  What laws and rules would you change to make a country safer and save innocent lives?

I think slugs mentioned mental health ....

As a cop I can tell you 98% of shootings are done with illegal/stolen/ghost guns

You can make. Gun with a 3d printer these days, if we are able to ban all guns are we going to ban 3d printers ?

You only need the gun to work once to cause damage , so it doesn't need to be an expensive sig suar

If someone wants to cause mass chaos they will find a way, if they can't use guns they can easily find a way to make a crappy explosive

Mass shootings are usually with the intent to cause massive death in one shot... you away guns they will find a different way

When it comes to shooting in general those are mostly done with illegal guns anyways .... Someone holding up a sign stating "ban all guns" isn't going to stop the crazy person with mental illness from walking in my sons and daughters school and shooting it up

Only a good person with a gun will stop them or have a Fighting chance to stop them

At the end of the day you will NEVER get rid of guns, stopping good people from getting guns is only going to put your and my kids more at danger .... Kids can only hide in a closet for so long ....

I'm all for better background checks and making it more difficult to get apProved...but an outright ban is ignorant

Once again I have been dealing with this for 7 years now... never have I dealt with a shooting that was done with a legally owned gun

Can it happen that a legally owned gun owner will do something ? Yes of course and it has happened ... but that is where mental health comes into play and the powers that be make sure the right people get a gun


In the end this is something none of us will ever agree on ,  but I'm speaking from a first hand experience pov ..that's all I got to say on that front

Quote from: Slugsy-Narrows on November 29, 2022, 06:38:19 PMKill

Thank you for your service!!!


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Thanks slugs

Quote from: DJN on November 29, 2022, 05:40:50 PMBloomberg made an example out of him, but what do you need a gun for, just to go to a club ?? Because you wanna wear $100,000 in gold ?? Then go to respectable joints where you don't need a gun, don't have to worry about being robbed and if a problem arrives, fight with your fists like a man

And this is where the major grey area comes into to play

You just stated burress went to a place where he had to worry about getting robbed

Not everyone is burress with money , and some of these people have to worry about getting robbed all the fight

It is 100% factual that making gun laws stricter will not stop gun violence ... people who tend to shoot other people are most likely already a criminal or got a gun illegally , stolen , ...a ghost gun etc

If you live in that kind of area and are a good citizen , only defense you have with you if someone is holding you at gun point is your hands or feet to make a run for it


There is a reason places like Chicago ( possibly worse city in country) is so much more dangerous than a city in Texas

The focus is not in the right places

Quote from: CVA14 on November 29, 2022, 12:49:57 PMJailing Plax was not the injustice. The injustice was giving the police sergeant a pass.

People causing DUIs and accidents is not just a police sergeant injustice ... it's and every person injustice .... I know from first hand experience if you are drunk and injure someone you will get charged for a DUI and be released as soon as you are sober ... and given a court date


People who want Justice should go to a place like Texas ..... but then the same people hate guns so much they will blindly risk beliefs 8n Justice because of it

Not saying you, just in general

Quote from: MightyGiants on November 29, 2022, 11:34:30 AMI really felt like jailing Plax was an injustice.   Just today, I read in the newspaper about a police sergeant who got drunk (over twice the legal limit), drove, and crashed into a stopped vehicle, nearly killing the driver (who suffered massive injury).   That sergeant didn't serve a day in jail (suspended sentence and probation) and was even allowed to retire from the police force rather than be fired so he could collect a pension.

When I compare that crime with the crime of illegal possession of a gun and shooting yourself, I don't know how that jail time was justified.

As a police officer I can tell you , especially in a state like New Jersey almost no one goes to jail for extended period of times for a DUI ... even if it did cause an injury ... at the end of the day by definition it is still an "accident" and you do get booked for the DUI but that's it

I agree his prison sentence was a bit much ...but that's because it happened in states like Jersey and New York where they hate guns so much that they used buress as an example

If that police officer would have killed that person then yes that is a different beast... I'm not saying what he did was right because it is 100% not right

It's the elected leaders who cause this ...Jersey , ny , Illinois etc they hate guns so much they will do anything to get rid of them

But the guy who actually shot someone gets released because of "bail reform" ....then 9/10 times is committing some form of other crimes in the near future

FYI I am not speaking on behalf of any police department but my own observations and facts

I have a confession , i am SUPER HAPPY about how awesome DJ was and hopefully continue to be

but... I will admit i thought i was over the Eli sadness thingy majingy but then......

The Giants posted on there facebook page an in depth look of the team on the sideline and their reactions to Daniel Jones , nothing but celebrations which was great ... then you see Eli always coming to Jones and congratulating him .....he seemed genuinely happy for him .. but makes me wonder if deep down it stings the guy  a bit and maybe he realized his time is up , hopefully Jones can do the unthinkable and get Eli his 3rd ring and he can retire

Ill never forget I met Eli twice in the airport when i worked at TSA (yes i was one of those guys for 3 years of my life) ... first time he was nothing but nice ... was with the family and still took the time to shake my hand and say hello, second time was the day after the final game of the season where he hurt his leg.... he had a whole leg cast .... made me wonder how bad it was .... anyways i chased his as and asked him to sign my giants rubber keychain .... i had a pen which failed to even write it on it ... he allowed me to run and get a sharpie and then signed it ..... nicest dude ever

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