Big Blue Huddle

They played excellent defense that 3rd period and this despite missing two of their top 4 defensemen.  I wasn't thrilled with their parking the bus effort for most of the period but to their credit they got it done.  Quick stood tall but the defense in front of him to me was the big story.  There were not a ton of high quality chances late in the game despite the fact that they were sitting on a precious 1 goal lead most of that time. 

And oh what a season from Panarin! Another hatty! That's 3 on the season after having I believe 4 in his career coming into this year.

That guy Hellebuyuck is a menace!  Against mere mortals the Rangers would have jumped ahead in that first period but against this freak...not so much.  Not a terrible performance, though the late penalty was a bit of a bummer, but they held their own and created plenty of chances just couldn't get it past that goalie.

After the first two seasons this kid has had they shouldn't need to ask his permission to do anything.  If he can beat out the new guy for RT then that's terrific.  I'm not holding my breath.  And if he can't they should absolutely see if he can be remotely useful as a guard. It'd be tough for him to be worse there than he was at RT or worse than the recent guard play of the Giants in general.

Quote from: Jolly Blue Giant on March 15, 2024, 01:06:32 PMIn the consensus mock draft of tens of thousands, they have Joe Alt going 5th, Nabors going 6th, Fashanu going 7th, Turner 8th, Odunze 9th, Fuaga 10th, McCarthy 11th https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/mock-drafts/2024/consensus-mock-draft-2024

If we know anything about previous drafts, pretty much everything we expect goes right out the window on draft day. Shockingly different from the carefully layed out plan suggested by the Gurus of NFLTV and other sources

Was that before or after the Chargers lost their top two WRs though? That's a rather glaring need for them all of a sudden.  Anything is certainly possible but without a trade I don't see how any of the top 5 picks don't end up as a QB or a WR

Quote from: JT39 on March 15, 2024, 11:56:20 AMJones starting this year will be the worst decision this team has made since hiring Gettleman.

Not if they draft a QB at #6.  Run Jones out there and lose a lot.  Let the kid sit and learn.  Kid starts next season fresh with a year's worth of NFL playbook/practice under his belt and the Giants get ready to actually compete with another high draft pick.  They can't cut Jones so they might as well throw him out there. 

The problem with all of this is that teams like the Vikings KNOW the Giants are going to take a QB and are loading up to jump them.  The Giants don't have the ammunition to really compete in that game.  Their best hope is that SD/Arizona become so enamored with WRs that they simply turn down monumental offers (plural) to take MHJ and Nabers/Rome.  It'll be very interesting to see what happens draft day and what offers were out there after the fact if a trade doesn't materialize.

Quote from: MightyGiants on March 15, 2024, 09:16:21 AMI would be fine with the Giants drafting WR 3 at the 6th slot and I would be fine with them drafting JJ.  I would also be fine with a trade down as the team now needs more draft picks. 


The only thing I wouldn't be fine with is the team wasting yet more draft capital to trade up.

Given the fact that the QBs in this draft are so highly regarded, the QBs in next year's draft are not, and the top 3 teams all have QB needs of their own...I'm with you.  The price to move up would be astronomical. 

It's fine if you could guarantee you're getting a Mahomes...but even the best prospects (and Williams is very much that) have a chance to bust.  You'd be taking an awfully big gamble to try and get up there and if he's not Mahomes 2.0 the rest of the team is so terrible around him that you're just locked into a lot of losing.

I think they pretty much have to stay where they are and take the best QB or WR that's left.  It's not a great spot to be in but they made their bed by winning pointless games and not trading Barkley/McKinney when they had the chance.

The only other thing I've been pondering about all this is what exactly would the price for Justin Fields be?  I'm not enamored with him persay...but if the price falls all the way to a 3rd or even 4th round pick I think they'd have to consider it. 

Quote from: AYM on March 14, 2024, 11:29:11 PMWhy this is huge for the Giants:

With Arizona trading Rondale Moore, and San Diego losing both WRs, WR is a huge need for both of them, increasing the likelihood that at least one of those big 4 QBs will be there at #6.

And if it's not a QB that Schoen or Daboll like, someone likely will, meaning we could flip the pick.

I don't know that it really impacts the Giants all that much. The first 3 picks are going to be QBs in some order. Arizona and SD are going forward with their QBs so they weren't taking QB4. And everyone knows the Giants will likely take QB4. So unless you think this makes SD less likely to trade that pick this trade does not have much of an impact towards the Giants.

What does seem to be the case is that without a trade this draft should go

QB
QB
QB
WR
WR


Which means the Giants get left with either the 4th QB or the 3rd WR. Not ideal.

Quote from: EliWasrobbed on March 14, 2024, 09:32:34 PMI was reading something about June 1 deadline where his cap hit would go across 2 seasons instead of 1 in the chance we cut him now. I like that idea a lot... why even chance playing him?

It's something like a 70 million dollar cap hit if they cut him this season.  Even split it is insane to cut him this season.  It would be cheaper to keep him and not play him.  Next season it's closer to 30 and they will do it then.

They will not be cutting Jones this season under any circumstances.  They will absolutely be cutting him next year under every circumstance. 

I saw one reporter, I forget which one otherwise I'd post the tweet, that said he wouldn't be surprised to see before the end of the season:

LT - Thomas
LG - Neal
C - JMS
RG - Runyan
RT - Eluemunor

I don't hate it if I'm being honest.  I'd prefer Neal pull his head out of his ass and play RT but I'm not exactly confident of that happening so I'd love to see how he does at guard next to our best lineman who might be able to help him out a bit.

Quote from: ViewFromSection129 on March 13, 2024, 02:25:02 PMAmazing that this team has sucked for a decade, but every year, we are up against the cap.

Daniel Jones hurts.  Like a lot. 

I'm a big fan of the deal personally.  It ended up being a 2nd and 5th round pick next year for the most part. And what you're getting is a proven commodity that's only 26 years old. 

I love Josh Allen (LB).  I loved him coming out of college.  I was stunned to see him sitting there begging the Giants to take him, and I was ever more stunned to see them pass on him for a mediocre at best QB.  If you gave me the option of one or the other:  Burns trade + Contract or Allen with the contract I'm obviously going to pick Allen. But it's not quite that simple.  We don't know if he wanted to play for the Giants, we don't know if the new DC prefers Burns for his system for some reason.  Not to mention the Jags franchised tagged him.  As well they should.

Are there other free agents that I would prefer to Burns though?  I don't really see any.  Hunter is costing at least that much and he's almost 30 and Chase Young is probably the next guy after that I'd be interested and depending on who you talk to around here he's an outright bust. 

I think Burns better than what else is out there and while the price is hefty if he delivers 10+ sacks on one side and Kayvon delivers 10+ on the other side I don't think anybody will be too worried about the 2nd round pick.  Like any signing or trade the ultimate justification will come when we see them play but given the information at hand, and the fact that very recently a trade of 2 first rounders and a third was offered, I think the Giants robbed the Panthers blind on this deal.

Shesty certainly looks back! He's had a string of games now where he's looked like his old self again. If he's going to play like this from here on out the rangers are capable of beating anybody.

Canes goalie was also red hot yesterday including stopping a 2 v 0 breakaway. One fluky goal was all they could get past him but Shesty and the suddenly formidable defense made sure it held up.

That game kinda had a playoff feel to it given the importance to the standings and it was great to see the rangers come out on top with 2 clean points.

He's better than Devito for sure.  Possibly better than Jones if we're being honest just not as a mobile.  But post ACL exploding who knows how mobile Jones still is.