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Quote from: MightyGiants on April 24, 2024, 09:52:51 AMhttps://x.com/JFowlerESPN/status/1783129771527881055

Falcons Penix makes little sense. An older rookie who won't play as long as Cousins is under contract and healthy. Don't see it when they have other needs where there are players that can help them compete immediately.

Quote from: spiderblue43 on April 24, 2024, 09:39:07 AMStill think Maye is going to the Pats. Schoen has to get an elite wr threat, which is both smart and sensible.

Maye means trading up..losing our #2 and next year's #1 at least. That's a big swing. And there no reason to believe that couldn't be bested by another team.

Don't know what the Pats think. I don't see Denver giving up so many picks to get to three. Minnesota really is ideal for Penix. He would thrive there. Maye needs time to learn and get better. He fits better with the Giants or Pat who will not win next year. The Vikings can compete next year but not if they take a QB who needs to grow. McCarthy as well. I think either McCarthy or Maye are good fits for both the Giants and Pats.

Quote from: Jclayton92 on April 23, 2024, 04:03:44 PMI love Odunze as a prospect, he's my Wr 1 but he would be utterly wasted here with the Qb room we have currently.

He certainly wouldn't thrive until the team finds a QB. But that could be said of all the receivers.

Quote from: Jclayton92 on April 23, 2024, 04:05:15 PMhttps://www.bigblueview.com/2024/4/23/24138434/nfl-analyst-issues-impassioned-defense-of-giants-coach-brian-daboll-nfl-draft

Great article on why going Qb wouldn't be a bad move from an analyst that was in Buffalo for the Daboll-Allen start.

There many obvious reasons why it would be a good move, but the most obvious is that the Giants don't have real quality at the position that is the most important in the sport.

Bring on the chaos!! Maybe they will win a few chaotic games instead of boring, calm losses.

Everything will start to turn on who the Commander's pick: Daniels or Maye. And then will NE stay put or trade.

Quote from: MightyGiants on April 22, 2024, 01:20:09 PMThe odd part is that, in theory, Penix would have laid out his case when he was meeting with the teams.

I'm sure he did. This is a social media world, we just live in it. Get used to it.

Quote from: MightyGiants on April 22, 2024, 12:47:28 PMFunny, I assumed his PR firm/draft team wrote the letter for him

Nothing wrong with that. That's common these days.

Quote from: MightyGiants on April 22, 2024, 11:41:56 AMI seriously doubt this will move the needle, but at least it's original


https://www.theplayerstribune.com/posts/michael-penix-jr-nfl-draft-ncaa-football-university-of-washington

Love the guy. My gut is he will shine in the NFL if  put in the right situation.

Quote from: MightyGiants on April 22, 2024, 11:56:15 AMAs a surprise, or as the guy you thought the Giants would draft?

Surprise. He was an unknown. And no one thought the Giants would draft him. And they were right, they shouldn't have.

It's all going to come down to draft day. The first two, I think are set, but maybe not. Maybe Daniels is not number two, maybe Maye or McCarthy. I think if Maye or McCarthy are there for the Patriots, the Pats pick Maye. I don't see the Vikings giving up three number one draft choices (one next year) for McCarthy and maybe not for Maye either. Both players need a year on the sidelines, maybe even more than a year. The Vikings have a team ready to compete with good receivers, decent OL, and running backs. If the Vikes stand pat, they get Penix, who could prosper in that situation immediately. And they keep their other first round pick to fortify whatever they need. That leaves Arizona. They can trade with the Giants and get either Nabers and/or Harrison. Same with the Chargers. I would not give up the second round pick to the Chargers to move up one spot. I don't see the Raiders or Broncos giving up, or having enough to trade up. That leaves McCarthy. We shall see how the dominoes fall on Thursday.

I'm old enough to remember Rocky Thompson.

Quote from: Ed Vette on April 21, 2024, 04:03:48 PMT minus 4.
I can't believe you guys don't feel the significance and the excite level of this draft. Not since the 2018 draft. The impact? In 2018 the Giants still had Eli. In 2024, they are riding on Daniel Jones.

It's significance won't be felt for at least two years. Whatever direction they take won't effect next season. They will struggle either way. If they pick a QB or trade up and that QB fails, it will hurt beyond 2025. If they pass on a QB and one who they could have gambled to get, someone past the first two, and that someone turns out to be a star, while the Giants languish in QB hell for years, this draft also will be looked at as an abysmal failure. Picking or not picking one of the three WR prospects will not effect the team nearly as much as the QB decision. Receivers just don't have close to the impact a QB has. But time will tell starting in 2025.

Yes

I'm sure Eisen heard it from someone who heard it from someone. If I were to guess, that someone was Daboll. I think when a coach and a GM come to a new team, they would like to pick their QB. Jones was handed to them. They had no choice but to go along with it and there weren't really any QB options in the 2022 draft. Now, though, there are options and Jones had a bad year and was injured...twice. So I have no doubt someone in the organization told Eisen that. But that doesn't mean they will draft a QB early or at all. There is still the owner to placate.