Big Blue Huddle

Quote from: Hadron on October 09, 2023, 01:58:35 PMIt's a game. Fans need to calm down.

You would think so.  For some reason every sport has fans that think since they are paying customers, they can act any way they want and say whatever they want. 

I doubt any will calm down.

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Quote from: umassgrad on October 09, 2023, 07:46:43 AMParsons can be contained by a good team. Dallas losing their best CB has hurt them but all teams are dealing with injuries.

I think Dallas is susceptible to a good run game.  They rush the passer very well but a good OL can have their way on the ground.   

If they get a lead and make an offense one dimensional it will be tough sledding for that offense.

Quote from: Jclayton92 on October 08, 2023, 09:01:09 PMI always thought Jones was the stop gap to an elite Qb. I thought that even resigning him with the 2-3 year out Gave the team time to rebuild and replace Jones.


Honestly asking did anyone think Jones would be here when we actually started contending? Because I didn't, I thought schoen and daboll would keep building, get their guy in the 2024 draft, let him sit a year, keep building and be ready go in 2025.

I thought the contract was a signal of some optimism with caution by Daboll and Schoen.  So, yes, I thought those guys had at least some level of confidence that they could take Jones to the next level (that level being above average, not great, or elite or top 10 in the league) and with that the team could compete.

Quote from: Rambo89 on October 09, 2023, 06:31:55 AM49'ers are the best team in the league right now.  That game against the Eagles will likely decide home field in the playoffs.

Agreed.   And right now 49ers look a lot better than philly.

Feels like just a few weeks ago people were worried about him getting a HC gig.

Probably because it was just a few weeks ago.

Is this a move to improve the team or get rid of someone you don't like? 

Today the defense didnt look good but if you told me prior to the game they would get 3 takeaways and score a TD, I would have thought they would be in a position to get a win.

On the other hand, if you told me the offense wouldn't score a TD, I would have thought the score would have been worse than it was (it could have been).

If I were going to bench anyone, it would be Jones right now.  Let Taylor play and see if there is any improvement.

Defense lacks gap discipline in a big way, but when they get 3 t/o' and score a TD it's tough look at anything but an offense that didn't score a TD (again).

Will the offense score more than the defense?

If they are going to have any shot today, they need to be able to run the ball against that weak run D.

I think the Colts did the right thing there.  Will definitely help the QB.

Barkley is not going to be with the team next year.  I would almost be shocked if he was. 

If they are out of the playoff picture at the end of October and they can trade him, it's not a fire sale, it's good management. 

 

Quote from: JT39 on October 06, 2023, 10:30:23 AMAgain, I disagree. Look at the naked bootleg against SF where NO ONE blocks the reigning defensive player in the league. Whether Bellinger was suppose to or not is irrelevant. Its very poor play design and a TE not doing his job. Jones was sacked before he could even carry out the bootleg.

Look at the fumble Jones had. I do agree - he is responsible for the fumble, but look at the first part of the play. An unblocked DE comes clean because Shane Lemieux is like 10 minutes late pulling to try to block him. Jones is hit immediately. How can you blame Jones for these plays?

The corner blitz you can blame Jones 100%. But when you get hit and sacked within 2 seconds - you have to realize the problem isnt the QB. When your RBs average 3.0 YPC - you cannot blame the QB all the time.

People here are clamoring for more shots down the field. Its physically cannot happen. The WRs cannot run routes 35-40 yards down field if the QB is sacked within 2 seconds. You cannot throw a WR open if they arent looking or finished with their route.

And yes - you can point to a few plays where they are missed. 2 out of 30-35-40 times is very little. And plus if you dont think QBs are affected when they are hit and knocked down consistently - then we need to be a little more open minded.

And this isnt one game with Jones. He stunk against Seattle - we all saw it. But if you watch every QB in the league. When they get time and can set their feet - plays are made. When they are hurried, pressure, and forced to move the pocket 85-90% of the plays - they will struggle. It is pretty simple.

I am still wondering what was supposed to happen on that play.  Bellinger certainly took a stance like he was going to try and block Bosa from getting to the outside.  Jones looked like he was taking a 7 step drop. 

Someone didn't execute properly there. 

I can't speak for anyone else, but I don't think Jones is the only problem, but I think he is part of the problem. That CB blitz is a glaring example.  The hot read was wide open from the side of the blitz and Jones never saw it coming.  So if getting hit fast is going to rattle him or any QB and cause them to not play their best, he is compounding his own issue by not reading a defense well. 

I agree that having Lemieux pull to block a DE and not come close to getting there is a play calling issue.  The same thing happened to Bredeson.  Its a tough block and the coaches need to understand their personnel's limitations. 

There is too many misses by Jones to not consider him a big part of the issue right now.  If he is responsible for making the blocking adjustments at the line, then he is really deficient in that regard.  If it's someone else's responsibility, I would wonder why. 

If the next couple of games go as expected,  Barkley could be playing for Cleveland or somewhere else by November

Quote from: uconnjack8 on October 05, 2023, 10:38:57 AMI find it perplexing because we see it sometimes but not others. 

It seems the people around him thought his football smarts were good enough to sign him to the current contract.  I dont think they were looking at his Duke transcripts for that.

I left this out when I first posted on this

There is more than 1 type of football smarts.  Jones has very limited ability to see the field and feel pressure.  Not sure if that's football smarts or feel for the game or whatever you want to call it. 

Then there is things like not getting a good pre-snap read.  Is that football intelligence or just doing the work prior to the game?