Big Blue Huddle

Quote from: Painter on December 28, 2023, 02:13:00 PMI will take it further than a zero chance that they will trade up for Williams by suggesting that even if they decide to use their top pick on a QB- which I doubt- he won't be their target.

Please don't ask me who I think it might otherwise be as I haven't decided if it's even worth the bother.

Cheers!

If not Williams, then who??? 😝

Quote from: Bob In PA on December 28, 2023, 09:24:31 AMsooners: It occurred to me that somehow he reminds me of our bad experience with Eli Apple.

Based on the bold print above, I fairly certain you will agree and see why I say that.

I'm afraid if the Giants "force" themselves to take a QB in round 1 it will be this guy, because if we both see that particular problem with Williams, the teams picking ahead of us are likely to see it, too.

Bob

I definitely understand but I think a lot of the body language and crying to momma gets overblown. The talent is there so I'd be interested to know what his teammates have to say about him. If his teammates vouch for him then as a teams GM I wouldn't put too much stock into all that nonsense. However, if his teammates bring it up or mention Williams negatively, then I would be weary of drafting him. Either way, unless the Giants trade up, Williams will be someone else's franchise QB or headache.

Quote from: MightyGiants on December 28, 2023, 08:59:59 AMThe Broncos just benched their "better QB"

That benched QB has 26 TDs, only 8 picks and a 98 QB rating. I know every Giants fan would take those stats from any of our QB.

The bottom teams all have bad QB play except the Seahawks who also have 3 very capable WRs and 2 stud RBs

No debate there other than it seems, the teams with the better QBs have the better lines or is it vice versa??? 🤷🏼�♂️

Fair assessment. Mayfield, Murray, and Hurts are all capable QBs who are starting material in the league, obviously! Williams is the most gifted out of all three in my opinion. In watching him take over in the Texas game while at OU to his career at USC his talent jumps off the screen. The throws and plays he makes with his feet are off the charts. He will be the #1 pick in the draft and I expect him to be a high caliber franchise QB, so if somehow the Giants get Williams, I'd be ecstatic. Now I say all that without knowing his mental makeup. Based on some body language and such he may not be suitable for the New York market. That would be the only hesitation I'd have.

Get rid of him and replace him with a mythical late round RB who will come in and do what Barkley does? Sounds great but odds are the late rd RB won't produce like Barkley and won't draw the attention that Barkley does. Maybe give Gray the job?

I will say the Ravens D looks pretty good post year 2 of Wink Martindale. I'd say most would agree they have always had talent so switching to a new coach didn't affect the outcome.

Definitely lack of talent mainly at QB, Oline. I assume that the D would improve  with a better offense.

A much better QB will solve most of the Giants issues imo.

Still don't know the fascination with Robinson.

Quote from: killarich on December 25, 2023, 07:25:30 PMGiants need a franchise qb ... but not behind this Oline and no wr1

Will be the same sh** slightly better maybe

I disagree. If QB makes the plays that were there this game, the game might be a victory for the Giants. Since the QBs in this game didn't make the plays a franchise QB could/would make, the Giants will lose. Same Oline/Same Weapons

The Giants need a franchise QB before they'll ever start being relevant again.

Quote from: killarich on December 25, 2023, 07:20:39 PMKafka is a joke

How? A perfect play call the QB and WR just didn't make the play

The Giants need a QB who can accurately throw a football

Quote from: T200 on December 25, 2023, 06:57:03 PMWe do too. Just don't have a QB that's brave enough to look past the rush.

Maybe every so often but not consistently

Quote from: T200 on December 25, 2023, 06:48:32 PMThey ALWAYS have people open!!!

Eagles have WR that can run routes to get separation