Big Blue Huddle

Ugh

Looks like this draft is playing out exactly as predicted. 

Quote from: Painter on April 25, 2024, 03:16:53 PMAnyone not named McCarthy.

Cheers!

Really? So you don't think he's got the juice?

Quote from: AZGiantFan on April 25, 2024, 02:55:27 PMWhich makes it puzzling how many seem to be assuming that because the Giants made some moves the Oline will be better.  The Oline is the football that Lucy keeps pulling away from Charlie Brown.

That's been the Giants' MO as long as I've been a fan-throw one or two guys at a problem during the off-season and pop the champagne and celebrate the resolution of a problem that's existed for 5-10 years. 

Quote from: EDjohnst1981 on April 25, 2024, 02:20:42 PMI'm excited to see what the actual decision makers do.

The Daniel Jones era is either over or he has run out of excuses as the draft a weapon. (Although, we thought he was out of excuses last season).

Looking forward to seeing the direction they go in.

IMO Jones' health concerns have superceded any doubts that may linger about his ceiling of play. 

Quote from: spiderblue43 on April 25, 2024, 10:52:18 AMBy the way. What happened to Bellinger after such a promising rookie season? He looked lead footed and sluggish. Remember..he Hulked himself out for camp last year and went pfft almost right away.

Hasn't been the same since the eye injury. Probably has problems with depth perception. 

Quote from: expatriot on April 25, 2024, 11:08:47 AMI don't think he will be there when the Giants draft, but I wouldn't be upset if they somehow got him.  Yeah yeah yeah he didn't throw a lot based on the Michigan offense BUT he was the best third down QB in the country and he has a strong arm, and he is used to pressure and COMING THROUGH.  All of it is academic because he will be gone before pick 6 and the Giants don't have the draft capital to go get him.

 😢

Quote from: Gmo11 on April 25, 2024, 10:44:48 AMI'd prefer it!  I think that would be exactly the right thing to do!

I'd be pretty pumped to get either without having to make a trade.

I can only imagine the wailing and gnashing of teeth if JJ is the pick and Maye is also available.

Quote from: Jclayton92 on April 25, 2024, 09:57:21 AMI would much rather take a risk and go for it than be on the meh train we've been on for 5 years.

I'm good with that. If anything it will make it interesting to see what effect it has on the narrative.

Quote from: kingm56 on April 25, 2024, 08:57:56 AMFair enough, my friend.  I think we're a lot of teams fail is drafting the wrong guy after hitting the reset button.  NYJ come to mind.  Otherwise, your good point is well taken.

Or sometimes the guy just can't stay healthy. 🤷

Quote from: kingm56 on April 25, 2024, 08:13:40 AMI believe this paradigm is somewhat outdated; a lot depends on the HC's credibly and past successes.  For example, if a HC wins CoY, or a SB, they'll be given more opportunities to press the QB reset button.  The rookie salary cap has also made it dramatically easier to move on from drafted QBs; it's no longer takes 5-years to recover from a poor QB draft decision. 

For a few example, McVay will  hit the reset button very soon to replace Stafford (injury/age).  Does anyone believe his job is in jeopardy? It wasn't when he hit the reset button from Goff to Stafford.  It's likely he'll need to hit the reset button 3x in 6 years.  Mike Tomlin hit the reset button on Kenny Pickens after one year, and only "solved" the issue for one season...he'll have to address it again next year.  Is his job in jeopardy? Shanahan hit the QB reset button 3x, going from Garoppolo-to-Lance-to-Purdy; his job was never in jeopardy. 

Of course there's going to be exceptions.

Quote from: Philosophers on April 25, 2024, 08:32:05 AMI can see them remaining calm as picks 1, 2, 3, happen, but then if their guy (whomever it may be) is there at 4 or 5, I can see them getting so excited that they pull the trigger on a trade.  At that point, adrenaline will be overwhelming for them, not to make a move.

I think you are right.  They want their QB because I think they want to be here working for the Giants for a long time. 

But at the same time if they make an aggressive move and draft a guy that turns out to be "just OK" or worse, it's going to light the dumpster on fire much more quickly. It's going to be interesting for sure.

Quote from: spiderblue43 on April 24, 2024, 01:14:59 PMI don't know..but Campbell has done a remarkable job in a few short years. And he's a team leader..big piece to Jared Goff's game.

A guy I always wanted to have a shot as the Giants' HC.

Greg Roman is another one.

Let's see what a butt-clinchingly embarrassing spectacle the NFL turns the event into this year.