Big Blue Huddle

Quote from: TDToomer on October 08, 2023, 07:07:46 PMDon't you think you are driving the same point into the ground enough?

No different than others with the offensive line receivers play calling etc

Quote from: AYM on October 08, 2023, 06:55:47 PMI'm not ready to fire Daboll yet, but he's trending badly and he hasn't done anything that would make me want to keep him (or Schoen).

If we bottom out and we're in position to draft one of those hyped QBs, then Daboll has to go along with Schoen.

As far as the playoff run goes, I think a more accurate stat for him at this point is that he's 5-11-1 since a 6-1 start.

Shouldn't this regime get the opportunity to draft their own QB and not get fired along with the two previous coaches and GM with Jones as their QB?

Quote from: GMenRF on October 08, 2023, 05:31:32 PM1.  Why is there a lack of effort on the oline.  It's like these guys are not even trying block.  Even the center looks like a turnstile.

2.  Why is it when DJ got hurt we finally started calling seam routes for Waller - where was this all season?

3. Why didn't you call timeout when the defense looks lost presnap before Hill caught that long TD.  Secondly, why was McKinney on no man's land in that play.

4. Why hasn't Bobby Johnson been given the pink slip yet.  2 first round picks, 1 second, 4 3rd round picks and still looks like trash.  One offseason with Neal and to rookie class last year and they look significantly worse than last year.  It's not talent anymore at this point it's coaching or lack there of.

On your second point they have called seam routes to Waller all season.  Difference is Taylor was looking to go to him not defaulting to his underneath route.

Quote from: madbadger on October 08, 2023, 06:32:51 PMThe man has been physically brutalized because of other men's ineptitude. Never said he was a good player but when you get beat pillar to post every weekend you have a right to say something IMHO.

Some of it is due to his own ineptitude

Quote from: madbadger on October 08, 2023, 05:46:13 PMAgreed. If anyone was ever justified in putting his teammates, coaches and organization on blast it's Jones. He is a class act even if he isn't the guy at the position.

Jones hasn't been good enough to blast anyone.  But even if he was that's not him.  No one ever questioned his professionalism and toughness but that is only going to take a player so far in the NFL.

Quote from: Jclayton92 on October 08, 2023, 05:28:58 PMIf he was playing in a traditional defense and the giants could actually afford to allow him to be the deep safety and ballhawk he'd be amazing.

Imagine calling someone you don't know self centered because they went on a vacation and are venting because they are tired of losing. The defense hasn't been great but it hasn't been the problem. We didn't invest in the defense this offseason like we did the offense.

Like seriously look at the secondary it's Mckinney and Jackson with 2 rookies and a UDFA and even they aren't the problem.

They haven't been good.  McKinney has missed a number of tackles and the effort looks to be lacking.  I'm glad the Giants didn't hand him a big extension.

Will make no difference this season if Daboll is calling plays

Doesn't sound good but we gotta see what the tests come back with tomorrow.  Not jumping the gun yet.

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Quote from: JT39 on October 08, 2023, 04:38:08 PMYou win with talent. The giants don't have it. Even the great chiefs ran the ball with great success. We can't run. We can't block. Our WRs are f'n awful.

Yeah I'm ok replacing Jones. But we are still gonna suck unless the talent gets immensely better. The OL has tanked in the bottom third for the last dozen years. Our defense gave up over 500 yards in 3 quarters today.

But keep focusing on ONE player. I'll bring more balance to the board by focusing on the other underperforming players.

They don't have talent at QB at least an elite one.  Talent will get better once you improve the talent at that position.

Quote from: Messiah717 on October 08, 2023, 04:31:50 PMI do believe Daboll will be back but I don't like what I've seen here.  There's regression and then there's this.

This is fair

Quote from: kingm56 on October 08, 2023, 04:31:37 PMIt was a great throw tho.

Absolutely.  I wish Jones had taken more shots like that targeting receivers down field.

Quote from: JT39 on October 08, 2023, 04:32:10 PMWaller had a chance to make a play in a 50/50 ball. Got both hands on it. And lost it.

So like I said before - we don't have good players. Good players score there.

Thank you for proving everything I said.

How about that vaunted run game today? Jones fault, right?

He lost it because it got knocked away not because he dropped it. 

The Giants don't have a good QB that's for sure and you can't win in this league if you don't have one.

I get it Jones had another bad game and you want to deflect to others and ignore his play and that's fine.  Better get used to the idea of Jones's time on this team winding down after the 2024 season.

Quote from: JT39 on October 08, 2023, 04:23:56 PMOf course it should have been. It landed right in his hands. Then the defender knocked it loose.

So the defender made a great play?  Thank you for acknowledging that and not blaming anyone.

Quote from: kingm56 on October 08, 2023, 04:27:40 PMThe giants are on pace to win 4 to 5 games; some posters better get use to the idea of them drafting a Qb. They're not going to give DJ his 4th HC and 5th OC and expect a different result...that's the literal definition of insanity.

Daboll should be back next season regardless....but I do think there should be a shake up to his coaching staff.

Quote from: JT39 on October 08, 2023, 04:18:13 PMBoth hands on the ball. Waller let the defender make a play. Good players secure it. But I know it can't be someone else's fault lol

Both hands weren't on the ball.  And again it wasn't anyone's fault.  It was a great play made by the defender.  It happens.