Big Blue Huddle

I can't believe you said the jury is still out on Daniel Jones. What will it take for you to declare a verdict.

Quote from: MightyGiants on November 16, 2023, 03:34:57 PM1. I think the biggest mystery in sports—not just football, but all of sports—is how difficult it is to project who's going to be a good NFL quarterback coming from college football. In the five drafts from 2018 to 2022, 15 quarterbacks were picked in the top 15. As of this morning, eight have either failed or been average or worse: Zach Wilson, Trey Lance, Justin Fields, Mac Jones, Dwayne Haskins, Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold, Josh Rosen. The jury's out on two more, Daniel Jones and Kyler Murray. Only five—Burrow, Herbert, Tagovailoa, Allen, Lawrence—are solid starters or better. This year, as I look at all the teams with QB needs, I wonder how the Giants and Patriots and Bears and Seahawks and Bucs are going to make sure they're not part of the majority that flunk QB Prospecting 101.

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/fmia/news/fmia-week-10-c-j-stroud-taking-off-while-its-time-to-ground-zach-wilson

Eli is supporting his friend. Because he's a really nice guy. The GM and coach have a different job.

Glad to know every decision you made at a really young man was perfect. 

I loved Rosen and Lamar. Hated Josh Allen and Baker. Was ok with Darnold. For us, if we weren't taking a QB, I wanted a trade back. I would have done what the Colts did. Hated the Barkley pick.

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on November 16, 2023, 01:32:19 PMYup. The consensus (not saying everyone here, but just the overall consensus) higher on Darnold, Mayfield and Rosen that year than they were on Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson.

To be fair, Josh Allen was not viewed as a sure thing at all. He had a cannon for an arm, but was really inaccurate in college and was bad every time he played a big time school. He was all projection. A ton of people were wrong about him.

Kafka should not be fired. No OC can perform with the QB level he's had to deal with the massive OL injuries. Wink really hasn't had to deal with that on his side.

Media environment around these issues is a bit different these days.

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on November 15, 2023, 09:39:53 PMTrue. We definitely wouldn't want to have two all time great ex-Giants be rapists.

Ben the rapist would have been shipped out of NY when that happened. NY doesn't treat its sports teams like college towns do.

This team is in dire need a franchise QB. It would turn the entire trajectory of the team around. You don't pass that up. IN fact, you trade up to get that. Especially with how good the top of this QB class is. Put another way, would you not do the Eli trade again if you had the chance? I know I would.

His dad has already said he's going back to school. I also don't think he's nearly ready. He can go back to school and be a top 10 pick in a much weaker QB draft the following season.

Put everyone on IR.

Daniels is going to be QB3 and I think he goes in the top 5. I think McCarthy goes in pick 6-10. I think Nix and Penix are mid to late round picks. I don't think Sanders enters the draft.

Barkley is already in decline. Paying him now would not be smart at all. Draft a new face of the franchise. The rookie QB. Sign a cheap running back and draft another.

I guarantee that is a source of frustration.

They should get him a QB and a real OL coach. Kafka is a good coach. He didn't forget to coach in one season.