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Bryce Ford Wheaton is a surprise as he has not shown much plus has been injured.  They must see something in him.

Quote from: bamagiantfan on August 26, 2024, 03:45:38 PMCorral isn't an NFL QB IMO. He is proving that one team at a time. I'm not interested in the Giants being next.

No thanks on Breida, even though that is a crowded RB room over there. I'm not even sure Mitchell is the backup anymore.

At a minimum, Shepard should sign a 1 day deal and retire a Giant. Loved him. Unfortunately he seemed to play with an intensity his body couldn't match.

I agree.  With JJ hurt and Vikings having a bad Darnold, if Corral cant get playing time there, he will not play elsewhere.

For you fantasy players, I wanted to share with you that I was doing some research and learned the following about Ladd McConkey which may make him a fantasy WR target for you (I drafted him).

First Josh Palmer is still recovering from a knee injury suffered last year.

Throughout preseason camp, Chargers reported that McConkey has had the least amount of drops (only 2) while also being considered the best route runner and generating the greatest separation among all their WRs.

I like his prospects.

If we are favored it's only because the rest of the U.S. does not know how bad and unprepared we are for this season especially once the usual amount of injuries begin.

I find it interesting how analytics oriented fans mention how great Josh Allen is yet in an ESPN survey of 100 NFL players, Josh Allen was listed as the most overrated due to all his turnovers at key moments in a game.

I will tell you something even more troubling.  If it is true the Giants preferred Iggy Ekwonu instead of Neal and would have drafted him, he has also been a subpar/quasi-bust OL.

What does that say about the Giants ability to evaluate OL prospects?

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on August 26, 2024, 06:25:18 PMI guess because our RB room is so thin, and it's important to remember that we no longer have a workhorse back. Singletary is a 190-200 carry guy, not a 275 carry guy. We're going to be a RBBC this year. Singletary will have the biggest share, but I expect Tracy and Gray to have meaningful touches in this offense.

I don't think they feel they can afford to risk getting Tracy hurt on specials if they can just as easily go out and find someoene off the street who can handle the role at a serviceable level.

If you are right maybe that means they think Gray is tenuous at best as a #2 RB.

What about Turbo?  Did they have him returning punts in camp at all?

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on August 26, 2024, 06:20:59 PMAny predictions?

No.  Neal is such a trainwreck that I almost want him to be cut.

I think there will be a major surprise cut.

Tyrone Tracy?  He's got shake and bake and good hands.  Why not?  He's not a starter.

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on August 26, 2024, 05:42:40 PMIn the latest "Talkin' Giants" podcast, Bobby Skinner makes the claim that Saturday's game was the official final "nail in the coffin" for Evan Neal as an offensive tackle for the New York Giants, at least far as he sees it and as far as there being any hope that he can even be average. He mentioned the same thing in his taped conversation with Rich that you can watch in the thread Rich provided. The follow-up point that he made was that Neal needs to start working at guard ASAP and that the project of him playing tackle for this team, even in a swing role, should be abandoned.

Thoughts on this?

It's what all our eyes saw.  I saw a man reacting late then moving at half the speed necessary and when strength was needed, he got pushed back.

I said play him at guard but honestly, I dont even think he has any heart.

Quote from: MightyGiants on August 26, 2024, 11:40:38 AMJoe,

I think the team has improved significantly and, more importantly, in important areas. One thing we need to remember is that the Giants faced two of the best young teams in the league, the Lions and Texans, and the Jets have a pretty stacked roster.

Rich - i agree that more important positions may have been upgraded over less important but until we see actual play then results I won't believe it.

Last year's 40-0 obliteration by Dallas and the dam breaking performance of our OL have given me doubts that results are the only thing that matters.  No such thing as little wins.

Great stuff Rich.  My problem is that I see it and see it as nothing more than a wash.  Until live regular season action, I have to see if OL is really improved.

Quote from: Doc16LT56 on August 26, 2024, 09:46:24 AMSomething is broken within this organization. All the sugar coating and optimistic spin in the world doesn't change the fact that the Giants are a bottom-5 team in terms of wins and losses for more than a decade.

There's an old saying that you can't fix a problem until you acknowledge you have one. I'm not sure Mara and company are willing to take responsibility beyond scapegoating one or two individuals each season.

So true.

I think the Giants need a proven head coach with a no nonsense personality.  Time to shape men.

They need a GM who can identify hidden problems to avoid draftees and find hidden talent and select them.

Schoen and Daboll are not getting it done.

How is it that on a perennially bad team and drafting near the top of the draft board, the Giants are lucky to get only 2 starters out of it yet other teams like the Chiefs drafting at the back because they are so good find 2 starters in the same draft?  With so much more talent, it should be harder to break into the starting lineup of a team like the Chiefs.