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I haven't read the previous pages in this thread yet, so not clear on the context of previous discussions. I would just add what I've said in other threads, I don't think any of the defensive coaches have distinguished themselves in a way that they should feel any sort of entitlement or that the Giants have to keep them. They've been part of the problem in my opinion.

Not sure if this tweet was already shared on the board. I think this stat tells us a lot.

https://twitter.com/BobbySkinner_/status/1744440201630421193?t=Hr9tkXg-8JBwPXFSM1Uu-Q&s=19

Bye!

Quote from: londonblue on January 10, 2024, 11:48:56 AMShep has played hard, played hurt and played with heart across his career with us. He has been a good and loyal servant. He is not a legend but he deserves more respect than some are showing him. I wish him only the best in the future.

He was one of the best compensated and least reliable players during one of the franchise's lowest eras of its history. Can we please stop talking about Shep like he's Amani Toomer. Everyone who puts on shoulder pads and a helmet deserves respect. They are not, however, entitled to a roster spot. Please let's not pretend the discussion is about anything other than that.

Yes, the merit of 57 total receiving yards and zero contributions on special teams. But he had to hold a roster spot for the entire season with no upside for development. Smh, how ridiculous some of you sound.

Quote from: Painter on January 09, 2024, 12:56:57 PMYes, the Giants Offense is even worse which is why it is must be the center, the nidus, the focal point currently for any and all issues regarding the competency, ability, and talent of staff and players. And for me, it begins with Joe Schoen needing to decide if Brian Daboll, despite being named 2022 COTY isn't an example, a victim if you like, of the Peter Principle.

Right on cue Painter gives us another word to look up, wrapped in a good point.

@Fast Eddie Felson

"Mendacity is a system that we live in, liquor is one way out an' death's the other."

There are more problems on D than what you're seeing.

Quote from: Sem on January 09, 2024, 12:18:18 PMI don't see how they could stop him if he resigns.

It's no different than if a player quits the team. They wouldn't be free to sign with another team.

Quote from: uconnjack8 on January 09, 2024, 08:38:22 AMDo poorly rated OLBs have something to do with that?  Asking for a friend.

Lol, point taken. No shade intended to Wink. I'm a fan of his. I wasn't in a rush to replace him, just don't see it as a tremendous loss at this point.

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on January 08, 2024, 09:10:47 PMThat sounds like a lot. Not exactly a minor tweak or two.

2 year rebuild this time?

Quote from: uconnjack8 on January 08, 2024, 05:10:59 PMCruzMissile?

Possible. Getting old and my memory seems to be shot.

Quote from: T200 on January 08, 2024, 05:00:20 PMIn more recent events, what happened to Baltimore 2 years after Wink left?

I don't have the numbers but I'd like to see Baltimore's defensive rankings in Wink's last 2 years there and the 2 years since he's been gone.

In Wink's four years in Baltimore they were 1st, 4th, 7th and 25th in defense. The last two years they were 9th and now 6th.

It's actually ridiculous how consistently good Baltimore is on defense despite completely turning over the roster.

Quote from: Jclayton92 on January 08, 2024, 04:56:32 PMDid you have an episode? Didn't you just start a thread yesterday saying we were the ascending team in the NFCEast?

Yeah, it's very confusing. There was another poster like this a couple years ago. Blanking on his screen name.

29th and 27th in run defense the last two years. And that's with a ton of cap invested in Dex, Leo and Okereke. I respect Wink and his body of work but I'm okay with losing him at this point. Not to mention two resignations in three years is also a red flag.

On another note, people here don't actually believe Belichick would take a coordinator role, right?