Big Blue Huddle

Quote from: MightyGiants on November 13, 2023, 09:56:09 AMI could see the Giants getting a QB robbing victory or two with the return of Tyrod Taylor

There is absolutely no reason to play Tyrod unless Devito gets hurt. For as bad as Devito is, what is the harm of him continung toget reps? He could still be QB 3 next year and a backup if Jones isnt cleared.

Taylor's days are down here.

Couldnt agree more.

The ideal finish to this season is losing every game and guys like JMS, Banks, Hawkins (play him and let him take his lumps), Pinnock, McFadden, Thibs and a few others getting better.

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on November 13, 2023, 09:26:00 AMThey were competitive last year with a QB who is likely to be replaced due to not being good enough, so I'm not sure I agree with this.

Fools gold. We were never competitive with the teams that were close to winning the title. Did you see us against the Cowboys on Thanksgiving or the Eagles in the 2 real games? We were average last year. And very lucky. Last year was like 2016, an outliner.

Quote from: kingm56 on November 13, 2023, 06:34:32 AMThe same sentiments were uttered about the 3-13-1 Texans last year...

Quote from: Gmo11 on November 13, 2023, 06:34:18 AMThey did win 9 games last year. Got a few lucky breaks sure but 9 wins is 9 wins. The difference from that to this year was 1) OL injuries and 2) Jones reverting back to his old terrible performances. Stroud on this team wins 9 games easy and maybe more.

And the coaching sucks this year. The defense is terrible. And our draft choices have been below average. The players who led us on offense last year should not be back next year.

We need a QB
Three OL
A RB
And at least 2 WRs. One in which is actually dominant.

Quote from: Dgoodmantrublu on November 13, 2023, 05:48:18 AMYou can't tell what Hyatt is because the team doesn't have a QB capable of getting him the ball. Taylor found a way, but the other QBs cannot. Cartwheels are done over here to avoid blaming the QBs on this team.

This team is miles away from being a competitive outside a QB.

Quote from: Gmo11 on November 13, 2023, 03:21:06 AMHave you looked at those names? The only reason they're "making plays" is because the QB is getting them the ball. You put Stroud on the Giants and change nothing else and not only is he still an MVP candidate but Hyatt looks like Tyreek Hill or a young OBJ ans Waller looks like Travis Kelce without the Swifties.

Who cares what the names are - they are blocking and getting open. Two things we don't do.

The overrated ness of Hyatt is getting silly. He's a one route player at this point.

Ever in my life.

I am not going to lie. I watched maybe 12 plays. And no I didn't expect a win. I expected the outcome that arrived. It's basically the same stuff each and every week. We can compete against bad teams or heavily injured teams. And get smoked by anyone decent. Some thoughts.

- I would get rid of Daboll and Schoen after the season. This whole notion that they should pick their QB is nonsense. First off Schoen hasn't shown the ability to pick anything draft pick right outside some complementary players. Our coaching staff sucks right now.
   - the challenge on the first drive was absolutely ridiculous. Just shows he is not under control and just flies off the seat of his pants.
   - we are utterly embarrassed and not ready to play every week. Don't give me the jets or the commanders. Rodgers would have destroyed us and Howell is a below average QB.

- we have to get rid of these losing players on the team immediately. Ojuiari, Shepard, Campbell, Holmes, Slayton, Barkley, McKinney, and maybe a few OL who either have shown nothing or constantly hurt. Move Neal to guard. He can't play tackle. Another year out there is just wasting time.

- I have no faith that anyone in this organization will make the right call on what QB to take and even if they take one like Williams, maye, or daniels - I have full confidence they will screw them up like most other players on this team.

Posters and fans want continuity. Forget that. I want a team with an indenity. Which we don't have. I want to see dominant players. Which we don't have. I want to see speed and fire and passion - which again - we don't have.

I said this after the first few weeks and I'll say it again. It's not about needing a new QB. That's irrelevant at this point. We need a new f'n team with people who know and can develop talent.

- no coaching
- no talent
- no chance

Quote from: Gmo11 on November 12, 2023, 08:19:49 PMWhich is why if the Giants choose wisely next April this rebuild gets right back on track. Outside of that one single position the Giants have an equal or perhaps even better roster than the Texans. But the difference in that one position is jarring.

No they don't. The Texans have good OL, backups or not, and WRs who make plays.

I don't think McCarthy is too 5 regardless. But he could be someone at the end of round 1 to trade back into if we don't get a guy with our first pick.

Drew Allar on the other hand? Needs to transfer immediately. He's being ruined by Franklin and that offense.

Pac 12 defenses suck. Most of already failed playing good defenses (Nix, Penix, DJ Ug). There's a reason why they go to the pac 12. It's much easier.

As for McCarthy. There was nothing to take away. They played it ultra conservative. Saying he was good or bad is just an already biased opinion.

The Dallas game was a huge red flag for me.

Totally unprepared and not ready to
Play.

Who cares?

He's a rookie QB we will see once every 4 years. He cost his team a win last week with a poor second half performance and a game ending INT. He will make plays, and he will make mistakes on a team that is totally irrelevant.

Its half of a season. Stroud has struggled with pressure all year. His OL (with all their injuries) have pass blocked amazingly.

Its amazing how a QB can look with time and a chance to set their feet.

Run to the podium and take Harrison, trade back in the first round and take the QB.

who cares. Cut bait after the season. There are a lot of losing players on this team - move on..