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#181
Quote from: MightyGiants on April 03, 2024, 01:24:51 PMWhen was the last time the Giants hit a homerun (hell, or even a triple) with a day-three pick?

Maybe Bradshaw.
#182
Quote from: AZGiantFan on April 03, 2024, 01:32:33 PMJoe Burrow, Cincinnati Bengals: 9

Patrick Mahomes, Kansas City Chiefs: 9¼

Tom Brady, Tampa Bay Buccaneers: 9⅜

Tells me all I need to know about the importance of hand size.

Large hands are an advantage. Is it the the be-all-end-all? Of course not. Can small hands be compensated for? Sure. But it's still better to have larger hands in sports.
#183
Quote from: uconnjack8 on March 29, 2024, 12:22:08 PMWith QBs what's the minimum hand size teams usually use as a line?

Interesting you should ask that question. Doesn't Penix have the largest hands of the top prospects? If memory serves, Dante Culpepper has smaller hands which was frequently mentioned when his propensity for fumbling was discussed. It became a cautionary point for future drafts. 
#184
You just know that the refs are going to be all over the map when enforcing this.
#185
Quote from: AZGiantFan on March 24, 2024, 09:38:47 PMI'd throw in forcing Coughlin to fire Gilbride.  A guy who gives you consistent top ten offenses doesn't grow on trees and his one bad year that was the basis for the firing was pure scapegoating because it wasn't on him, it was the start of the Giants personnel decine, particularly on the OL.

And that all began with Mara's "the offense is broken" comment. 
#186
Quote from: Jolly Blue Giant on March 24, 2024, 11:02:10 AMYou gotta know when to hold'em, know when to fold'em. The draft is a little bit of poker and Gettleman couldn't play poker worth a damn. He held pocket Aces and folded...not to mention, broadcasted to the world he wanted DaVonta Smith...duhhh  ~X(

I concur - Bob's example in that draft flipped the switch from "improving", to "imploding"

It's not the first time. Reese did a similar thing in 2014 when he wanted Doug Martin, but Martin was sniped by Tampa, so he panicked and took David Wilson. 
#187
Quote from: Bob In PA on March 24, 2024, 10:51:39 AMTonka: I can't disagree with that, but the point is that they made BOTH mistakes at once, and then compounded their error with more errors. It was truly disastrous, not only in terms of personnel, but also how it likely IMO altered the career of Daniel Jones. Bob

That's fair but I think this situation makes a case for not panicking and letting the draft come to you.
#188
Quote from: Bob In PA on March 24, 2024, 10:47:03 AMTonka: Good one. My only comment is that Donald truly is/was "too small" to play the position. That would have been a tough pick to explain to the NY/NJ media, IMO. Of course, it turned out to be a genius move for the team who took him, but other teams also passed on Donald, one of the truly great players of all time. Bob

Winners know when to break from established metrics. Parcells said as much but stated it somewhat differently.

Losers run to where the ball was, not to where it's going to be.
#189
DaVonta Smith? Meh.I'd rather have Parsons anyway.
#190
For me it's a wash between not drafting Aaron Donald and not drafting Micah Parsons.
#191
Quote from: Jolly Blue Giant on March 22, 2024, 04:54:49 PMInteresting point: Would a fan rather have a quality, entertaining, decent team that flames out every year at the end for decades (cheer all year, cry at the end)...or an up-and-down, feast-or-famine, stink-or-shine type of team that wins a Lombardi every decade (bitch all year, surprised some years and have a parade)?

As for me, I'll take the latter

We have this exact same conversation every three or four years.
#192
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Campbell to the Eagles
March 22, 2024, 08:59:17 AM
Quote from: andrew_nyGiants on March 22, 2024, 08:00:32 AMHe wasn't a slot guy, he was a perimeter receiver. The QB's dysfunction in last years offense only saw the perimeter a few times with Slayton.

Campbell wasn't asked to do much because our offense was trash. He's no spring chicken, he needs an offense that's ready to cook.


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No spring chicken? He's only 26.
#193
Quote from: katkavage on March 19, 2024, 12:01:55 PMIt is very very strange the love for Jones the player. He really has shown nothing spectacular or even close in his five years with the Giant. Am I missing something? I'm still waiting for him to beat a good team...or even have a decent game against a good team. Is it all about beating an average Minnesota team in the playoffs? If so, why wasn't the following game thrown into the mix when Jones was dreadful against a real good team? The whole thing is bizarre. Is it because he was a first round pick (even though the guy who picked him is gone) that the owner doesn't want to admit a mistake? I just don't see anything close to greatness in his game. And now with the injuries??? 

Jones checks a lot of boxes that the Giants hold in very high regard. That's just the way it is.  :-??
#194
Quote from: ViewFromSection129 on March 19, 2024, 10:25:02 AMI have no idea why Schoen would say that. 

Because he doesn't want anyone to know what he really thinks heading into the draft? Unlike a certain someone. 
#195
Quote from: Philosophers on March 20, 2024, 05:03:37 PMBFW was so tantalizing for sure.  Maybe he comes back from his injury and learns.

I will take another Nicks type hands catcher at 6'0" in a second. 

I don't think the BFW experiment is over.