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I think you are wrong. I think this class is comparable to 2004. I think you have forgotten what good QB play looks like. So you pine for yet another chance for Jones.

Quote from: Jolly Blue Giant on November 08, 2023, 07:43:20 PMFor every "Franchise Quarterback" drafted early in the first round, there's a dozen washouts. The term "FRANCHISE" is not tatooed on their forehead, and it's anybody's guess. You are rolling the dice when drafting a QB and far more often than not, the guy doesn't have what the team was hoping for. I could list dozens of busts, but everyone already knows this and know who they are. For every Mahommes, there are "can't miss prospects", like Jeff George, Vince Young, David Carr, Tim Coach, Ryan Leaf...the list goes on and on

There are years when the QB crop looks amazing, like the '83 draft with Elway, Marino, Jim Kelly, and Ken O'Brien...or '04 class with Eli, Rivers, and Roethlisberger...after that, you have to go back to 1957 when I was 4-years-old and the '57 Chevy was making its way to the showroom floor in which Len Dawson, Sonny Jurgensen, and Jack Kemp

There is NOBODY claiming this year's QB crop is even remotely in that group of those years. It's a crap shoot, and you don't know what you have until you have half your cap wrapped up in a "can't miss" Kyler Murray or JaMarcus Russell

Eli would do just fine. In his prime he evaded sacks moving in the pocket. His intelligence and process was top notch. Prime Eli would have had this current roster in playoff contention. The 2011 OL was terrible. People never acknowledge how bad it was.

A lot of Giants fans wanted the team to draft Robert Gallery or Sean Taylor in 2004 instead of Eli. Boy were they wrong. And the people wanting the team not to draft a franchise QB are equally wrong now.

Hyatt gets open deep every game. QB misses throws except for a couple of games with Tyrod. But sure. Don't draft a QB. Because somehow nothing is ever the fault of the Daniel Jones. Have to give him 10 years to get it.

How can you not know at this point. Jones was awful this year before being hurt and he has never had a truly good season in five years. It is time to move on. Especially when the team will finally be in position to get a true franchise guy. Passing on that chance would be gross negligence.

Quote from: Jolly Blue Giant on November 08, 2023, 05:14:50 PMI agree, and I also believe they aren't totally giving up on DJ. I wouldn't be surprised if they took a QB late 2nd or third round to groom, but they aren't quitting on DJ until they know he doesn't have the goods. He would be more durable if he wasn't constantly being smashed to the ground because the line can't hold

Harrison is a once in a lifetime receiver and would be our no.1 right out of the gate, opening up Hyatt, Robinson, etc. You run to the podium for him if the possibility presents itself. They'd probably cut Slayton to save money and move Hyatt into his slot...IMHO

I firmly believe we'll be in the top 2. If we tie with Arizona, we'll likely be ahead of them because their strength of schedule may be harder than ours. So we probably just need them to win one game. Maybe two. Bears and Carolina play Thursday and both have other winnable games. And they don't have the injuries the Giants do. So I do think the Giants will be in a spot to get one of the top two guys.

He will be the back up to either Caleb or Drake Maye next season. Then he gets traded the following year. Pretty simple. His days as a starting QB are over.

Having a WR with no QB is useless. They need to get a QB at all costs in this draft.

Looking forward to people blaming Kafka for this talentless QB playing like crap on Sunday.

No. It would have been dumb at anytime to trade future assets in a lost season.

Not a fan of helmet scouting, but I'd rather stab a fork through my eyes than draft another Duke QB.

I will be thrilled if we get Caleb or Drake Maye. Warming up to McCarthy and Daniels.

You don't think Hyatt would be making plays if he had a QB who could actually get him the ball when he gets open deep. Nico did pretty much nothing when he had a scrub at QB throwing to him last year. QB makes a huge difference. It is the most important position in sports.

You don't have to put him in the HOF. But he's a good example of how a rookie QB can completely change the trajectory of a franchise.

You've seen this team win 4 Super Bowls. Many fans of other teams would sign up for that.