Big Blue Huddle

Lose 3 out of 4, with all 3 losses by 4 goals.  Bounce back with 3 wins in a row. Now,I am going to the next 3 games. Usually keep friday nights to go with my brother, saturday nights with the wife.  Then, the Caps game bringing my daughter.  Just the way the schedule worked out this year. 

As for last night, Igor played better.  Even the 2 goals he surrendered are correctable.  On both, he is on his knees before the shot is released.  Needs to be a teeny tiny bit more patient on that.  Best part of last night?  NO PENALTIES!

Quote from: files58 on December 18, 2023, 08:21:28 PMThe 2023 value of the Giants is 6.8 Billion. John share is half that. No need to be conservative, and safe with choices.

Yes, but that $3.4B is not in actual liquid assets unless they sell.  Cash flow and annual income is a concern for them.

Quote from: bldevil on December 18, 2023, 06:46:37 PMAgree with you on stadiums.  Public money should not go towards them.  The economic analyses show that the spending impact pretty much cannibalizes entertainment spending that would otherwise be spent in the same city but at different locations and at different times.  But the Giants are one of the few (only?) franchises to not get public funding for a stadium.

Another take on the original post.  I believe (this is armchair speculation) that Mara has less wealth outside of the team than most other owners.  (This needs to be checked.) I think that means he is more conservative with his decisions than other owners.  That could lead to going with safer choices which also leads to over-reliance on people you personally know.  Like hiring Mac-A-Don't.

I have read the same about the Maras.  Almost all of their money is the team. 

If QB is what you want, have to root for the Commanders. 

I am wondering if they just underestimated Carr a bit.  Wouldn't be surprised if the thinking for the defensive side of the ball was something along the lines of, "We don't have to blitz.  We can sit back and he will make mistakes on his own."  Well, didnt work out too well.

Quote from: uconnjack8 on December 18, 2023, 12:57:26 PMWhen you say misses, are you talking about balls he didn't throw? Or ones that were not well placed?

He was 17-21 against the Packers, there weren't many incompletions.

Balls that were not well thrown.

Gilbride told them this in late 2012 and was ignored then fired after 2013.  Flaherty said the same and was fired.

Quote from: Ed Vette on December 18, 2023, 11:20:18 AMUntil yesterday he had a good completion percentage and I don't recall many swing passes and flats but I do see some poor execution by the receivers and in blocking those swings and screens.

He had some bad easy misses on Monday against the Packers.  Had some yesterday, as well.  Yes, receivers dropped a few too.  Hyatt has at least 3 the last 2 weeks.

Quote from: killarich on December 17, 2023, 03:57:39 PMI for one never said the kid was a star but as a fan I hoped we could see something out of him ..... but who doesn't hope for another surprise star like Victor Cruz ?

But it's also pretty obvious we need a  #1 receiver and at LEAST 2 more options on the O-line

This team needs QB of the future .... But I now rather just build the team then insert a qb

Every qb that we have played this season has limped , concussed or been straight injured

Like Jones or not .... I rather not have another qb go through that o-line he'll be did 

People say this with every UDFA.  I guess if they say it often enough, eventually they will be right.  Same with late round OL picks.  People always think they are going to be the same as Diehl.  Not going to happen to often.

Quote from: Ed Vette on December 18, 2023, 11:10:53 AMIf he can't execute a short game and get the ball out in less than 2 seconds, he can't be the backup on this team. Not with that Offensive Line and given the history, I have no confidence that it's going to be better than it has the last ten years. Priority one is to find and retain an excellent Oline Coach.

Based on some of his terrible misses the past few games.  I do not think he can execute a consistent short game. 

Quote from: T200 on December 18, 2023, 10:34:03 AMAccepting or expecting? If they lose, I have no choice but to accept it. I have no challenge flags 

I don't even know the schedule, who's going to be on the roster, how they will look in camp and pre-season, or what state the opposition will be in.

yes, "accepting".  As in, you have resigned yourself to an 0-1 or 0-whatever start?

Quote from: Ed Vette on December 18, 2023, 10:59:46 AMThe interesting thing will be after the Eagles kick the xxxx out of the Giants, will Daboll start Tyrod the remaining two games? I don't know why they didn't have a plan for DeVito to have a short game. It's clear now that opposing Defenses will blitz and contain Tommy while isolating the coverage on Man. I know they want him to read through his progressions but they're killing themselves because they can't run the ball and he's looking down field on everything and not hitting his checkdowns. He's been waiting for his men to get open and it wasn't there yesterday. His protection was pure crap yesterday too!

Maybe this is the plan.  Put him in a ridiculously hard situation and see how he handles it?  However, with some of his misses on short throws, not sure he can execute any plan.

Quote from: T200 on December 18, 2023, 10:30:48 AMIt's the right move, IMHO. I firmly believe that Jones won't be ready to start the season. The game 1 starter will either be TD Tommy or the rookie they draft.

So, you are accepting a loss on opening day next year?

1) they are not playing at home.

2) they are not grooming for anything.  Daboll knows they have no chance of winning this game, so play the kid.

3) Daboll knows he sucks, but he is playing the hand he is dealt.

4) They can find someone cheaper and better than Taylor as a back-up, so need to extend him. 

Quote from: MightyGiants on December 18, 2023, 10:22:54 AMIt's not from lack of trying, in terms of drafting:

2011

4   James Brewer   117   T

2012

4   Brandon Mosley   131   T
6   Matt McCants   201   T

2013

1   Justin Pugh   19   T
7   Eric Herman   225   OL

2014

2   Weston Richburg   43   OL

2015

1   Ereck Flowers   9   T
7   Bobby Hart   226   G

2016

None

2017

2017   6   Adam Bisnowaty   200   T   

2018

2   Will Hernandez   34   G

2019

2019   7   George Asafo-Adjei   232   T   

2020

1   Andrew Thomas
3   Matt Peart   99   T
5   Shane Lemieux   150   G

2021

None

2022

1   Evan Neal   7   OL   
3   Joshua Ezeudu   67   OL
5   Marcus McKethan   173   OL

2023

2   John Michael Schmitz   57   OL

I remember when people on here felt that Will Hernandez was ALMOST as good as Quinton Nelson and to get him in the 2nd round was a steal.  Yeah, and I am almost as good as Quinton Nelson, too.