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Quote from: MightyGiants on March 22, 2024, 10:52:01 AMI think Nagy is counting the Giants assistant GM in the GM category as they don't has an assistant GM list


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PRO-DAY UPDATE: Only fitting that national champs
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, with record 18 Combine invitees, have biggest NFL turnout for pro-day.

Here's list of NFL attendees who'll be in Ann Arbor today, including former UM & current Chargers coaches Jim Harbaugh,  Jesse Minter, &  Ben Herbert.

HC (7)- Bears, Cowboys, Chargers, Dolphins, Patriots, Steelers, Commanders

GM (9)- Bears, Broncos, Cowboys, Dolphins, Patriots, Giants, Steelers, 49ers, Commanders

OC- Bears, Dolphins, Patriots, Jets, Steelers, Seahawks, Commanders

DC- Chargers, Dolphins, Steelers

QB- Bears, Raiders, Giants, Patriots

WR- Bears,

TE- Bengals, Chargers, Giants, Jets,

OL- Ravens, Bills, Broncos, Jags, Raiders, Jets, Seahawks

DL-Vikings, Saints

LB- Seahawks

DB- Bengals

https://x.com/RapSheet/status/1771184418092163086?s=20

For what it's worth, no Vikings offensive coaches or the GM will be in attendance according to that list.

We Giant fans and management need to just repeat saying the year 2025. The Giants will not fill their needs for the 2024 season. This is a project. Think long term. What you can't get this off season get next. By then let's hope those needs shrink. Whether it be cornerback, receiver, or QB. Of course who you fill in this year depends on strengths in the draft. Don't worry about 2024. Worry about 2025.

Quote from: Painter on March 21, 2024, 10:15:26 AMNew management? You mean new for the 4th time in 8 years? Sure, that ought to do it. Or are you talking about the Maras selling the team? You might actually have something there.

Cheers!

If only! I've said that the Mara's are ultimately what drag the franchise down.

Quote from: Philosophers on March 20, 2024, 11:33:03 AMI hope if we draft a QB and next season our OL continues to be awful that we dont insert the rookie just because the offense is sucking.

That's what Drew Lock is there for. And if the OL is still bad, or hasn't improved significantly, even with their all pro left tackle (that most teams don't have), then it might be time for new management.

Quote from: Philosophers on March 20, 2024, 12:14:02 AMStop suggesting an elite QB is the answer to the Giants problems.   And I am not suggesting anything about Jones, good or bad.

I never ever suggested that. But having one gives you hope for ultimate success. You can fix the other problems, and the Giants should and actually trying to, but you still need to find that QB. This is a QB driven league. There is no denying that. If you want the real Giant problem, look no further than the owner. Sadly we fans are stuck with a bad one.

Quote from: Philosophers on March 19, 2024, 01:29:35 PMMost importantly, they did it with an OL that protected their QB, then CJ flourished.  CJ Stroud was only sacked 38 times.  He would not be CJ Stroud if we were sacked 85 times like the Giants OL did.

You guys just don't get it. Of course I know the value of a good offensive line. But seriously, that good offensive line won't make a mediocre QB an elite QB. It might prevent him from being worse than mediocre. But the QB has to have the skills along with the offensive line to succeed. A good offensive line and a mediocre QB get you nowhere. And stop with the risk of drafting a QB because it's a crapshoot. Yeah, tell me something I don't know. Trust the GM and staff to do their due diligence. If they don't they will be gone

Quote from: Philosophers on March 19, 2024, 12:18:28 PMIt's not an individual sport like golf where 1 talent can overpower anyone and everyone.  Need everyone.  That's why it's called a team.

A team where the most important individual to that team is the QB. The team, Houston Texans, made the playoffs from the bottom of the division the year before. They did it in a variety of ways, but most importantly, they did it with their QB.

Quote from: JT39 on March 19, 2024, 11:57:55 AMOh I agree we need a QB and have to take them. My point is that there are situations that are really temping for new QBs and others not so much. And lets say Maye is the 4th QB taken - he may have a better career than Daniels or Williams - but it may be becaue his situation was better.

Could be, but if you are that good and your coaches are at least decent, you should find away to thrive.

Quote from: madbadger on March 19, 2024, 11:49:35 AMWhat has Jones shown thus far in has career that the staff and front office are united that it's job? The guy has thrown for more than 15 touchdowns in a season once in his career and that was his rookie season. The love they show him is grotesquely disproportionate to his impact on the field. IMHO it's a sign of a toxic culture that starts with the owner and works its was down through every aspect of the organization.

It is very very strange the love for Jones the player. He really has shown nothing spectacular or even close in his five years with the Giant. Am I missing something? I'm still waiting for him to beat a good team...or even have a decent game against a good team. Is it all about beating an average Minnesota team in the playoffs? If so, why wasn't the following game thrown into the mix when Jones was dreadful against a real good team? The whole thing is bizarre. Is it because he was a first round pick (even though the guy who picked him is gone) that the owner doesn't want to admit a mistake? I just don't see anything close to greatness in his game. And now with the injuries??? 

Quote from: JT39 on March 19, 2024, 10:47:25 AMNo matter who goes where withthe top 4 QB - they all need support staffs from coaches and players to be successful. The 3rd or 4th QB taken could be more successful than the first QB taken but it doesnt necessarily mean he is better.

Look at Minnesota.
- good OL
- Best WR in the game
- very good up and coming number 2 WR is Addison
- very good TE

Whoeever goes there will be starting off on the right foot!

If the staff is not up to a rookie QB, the Giants need a new staff. And you want to wait until all is good around this rookie? Keep waiting...and waiting...and waiting. We can enjoy more mediocrity while we wait. There is no perfect scenario. Your guy is there, take him. End of story. There won't be other chances.

I have no idea. No one does. All I know is if they aren't ready they shouldn't be coaching.

The post itself was another excuse. Sorry, if Jones won't say it, I will. Enough! Do better. That's all.

I think Jones, being the kind of kid he is would say, Enough! I have to be better. I don't want to hear anymore excuses. When teammates made errors when my sons were pitching, they would get angry. I would tell them you can only control what you do. The same with the QB. These excuses for him haven't helped him any.

Quote from: MightyGiants on March 17, 2024, 08:28:25 AMWhat I find amazing was it was only a month or so ago that I was debating with fans that insisted the Bears drafting a QB was far from a done deal

But who will that QB be?. The agentless, arrogant, cry baby Williams? 

Waste pick.