Big Blue Huddle

Quote from: uconnjack8 on October 31, 2023, 08:22:26 AMI see quantity on that list not necessarily quality.

This QB draft class is supposed to be very strong according to draft experts. I am assuming you don't think any will be any good?

Coaching does matter but it is still highly overrated. Did Bill Belichek and Sean Payton forget how to coach or are the groceries not up to par?

As far as Daboll, I'd assume with a better Oline, better WRs and a better QB he would all of a sudden become a good coach again.

Quote from: Bob In PA on October 30, 2023, 03:33:44 PMNow waiting for a post suggesting Jones to the Vikings for 7th-rounder in 2036.  Bob

This trade has already been suggested just  compensation is different 😂. I'm for it!

Anyone see where Thibs is saying he wasn't offsides??? I did see him moving before the snap but doesn't mean he was offsides. Can anyone confirm if he indeed was offsides or not?

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on October 30, 2023, 05:03:37 PMI respectfully disagree with this statement:

(1) No matter whom they take with this pick, they were not re-signing Williams either way. So the choice (after the end of the 2023 season) was something versus nothing, and they chose something. "Something" is always better than "nothing."

(2) They may use this pick as part of another trade in the future.

(3) Even if they do select a player with this pick who ends up not working out, that doesn't mean the trade they did today was a bad trade in my opinion. Today was about what value they extracted for Williams. What they ultimately do with that value is a separate evaluation.

Your points are valid and I agree with what you wrote. In my post you replied to, I just didn't type my full thoughts on it.

Quote from: Bob In PA on October 30, 2023, 04:35:42 PMsooners: I don't see it that way. 

I see the Seattle 2nd-rounder as the price to tade up in the 1st round if they see a QB worth such the price.

IMO there aren't any pro-ready QB's this year. Do you see one? Asking because you watch a lot of college ball.

Bob

If they do use the 2nd they acquired and move up to draft the QB of the future that would also make it a great trade.

To answer your question...

There is a pro ready QB and his name is Caleb Williams. As a Sooners fan, it pained me to see him pack his bags with Lincoln Riley and head to sunny skies and sandy beaches. Make no mistake Williams is NFL ready. Even with his last few games being stinkers. He can make all the throws and has WOW plays throughout his collegiate career. Closest thing to Patrick Mahomes. He buys times with moving in pocket and scrambling all while
Looking to throw. He can make any throw and looks at ease doing it while on the move.

Great trade assuming they draft a good player with the 2nd rounder. However, I am not sure the Giants will pick the correct player. That is based on picking Robison over Pickens in the 2nd.

Sounds like the Giants will need a ton going into year three of the rebuild. Ouch

As a person, who strongly believes coaching doesn't mean as much as many want to believe, bringing in another head coach won't change a thing. Matter of fact nothing will change until this team drafts better players and injuries to key players  are limited.

Quote from: Jclayton92 on October 29, 2023, 04:18:23 PMYear 2 of a full rebuild

But the Giants aren't improving

Fix Oline, get a better QB and get some WRs that can get separation consistently

Daboll is trash

Quote from: madbadger on October 29, 2023, 04:25:08 PMNot even close.

2-6 you sure??

Quote from: Jclayton92 on October 29, 2023, 04:20:01 PMWe are in year 2 of a full rebuild I think people forget that.

This team is worse than previous years teams

Daboll is Joe Judge