Big Blue Huddle

There is no hope until we have a new QB.

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on November 02, 2023, 09:05:38 PMAnd possibly a new QB

Meh. His QB has played like xxxx because he has no football IQ. He stayed in the game because he needed the work. Everyone wants to continue to make excuses for this pathetic QB. Can't make chicken salad out of chicken s--t

He was already declared out. He could not have played by league rules. So it wouldn't have mattered of Daboll knew or not.

He has never been have to do full field processing. So last year they constructed an offense of half field reads and one read and then run. Defenses adjusted and Jones couldn't handle the full field concepts.

Quote from: T200 on November 02, 2023, 05:25:47 PMKinda harsh. I guess he hit his head over the summer?   

I'm sure the Jets wish they didn't win that game that caused them to lose out on Trevor Lawrence. In 1980 they won a meaningless game and we got Lawrence Taylor instead of them. Meaningless wins in a lost season accomplish nothing.

Because teams adjusted and Jones can't operate outside of that simple structure. He can't process and consistently falls for trap coverages. That is not on the OC. The QB is a football idiot.

Quote from: T200 on November 02, 2023, 03:26:33 PMI don't think it's without merit.

Last year he created game plans that Jones could be successful in. This year he seems like he can't adapt to what his players can and can't do.

Our defense is top notch. We should feel very good about this unit in the future.

I can't root against them, but it is in their best interest to be bad enough to draft a franchise QB.

Giants had one of the top red zone offenses in the league last season. This year has been a disaster. That is on the QB for playing like a cowardly idiot and the OL changing every single week. But sure. Blame the coaches. It is the easy thing to do.

Quote from: BluesCruz on November 02, 2023, 01:50:07 PMI disagree

Andy has a nose for TDs.... Daboll and Kafka not so much

I'll watch him more closely tonight. Wasn't high on him coming out of college, but did think he'd be drafted higher.

That was a serious knee injury. Not all ACL tears are created equal.

Blaming our OC for idiotic QB play and an OL that has had a different lineup every single game seems really silly to me. Just one year after he was getting head coach interviews. Get him a real QB and some OL stability next year and get back to me.

Kayvon has been very good since weeks 3 or 4. People just refused to admit it.

Quote from: Gmo11 on October 31, 2023, 11:48:54 AMMaybe people will lay off the kid a little bit now?  Nahhhhhh

Also seeing Josh Allen on that list knowing he should have been the pick instead of Jones that year is bit of a punch to the gut.

Sure. Whatever you say.

Quote from: Stringer Bell on October 31, 2023, 07:32:34 PMWilliams comes up small in big games and always has. No thanks.

Maybe comes up small in small games. That's a major red flag. Neither of them have the fire I'm looking for out of a franchise QB.

Daniels is not an NFL QB.

This is not true. McKenzie did not play left tackle for the Jets. He was also a third round pick.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/McKeKa20.htm

Quote from: madbadger on October 31, 2023, 05:08:15 PMKareem McKenize was the last really good LT the Giants have had. He was a 1st round pick out of PSU as a LT where he started his career with the Jets. When the Giants signed him they already had Deihl at LT so the flipped him to the right fairly seamlessly. I think it has more to do with the player than anything else.