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#31
Quote from: H-Town G-Fan on April 25, 2024, 09:30:23 PMLike another poster said, being done with Jones and the draft pick being non-QB are not mutually exclusive. It also doesn't mean they think Penix/JJ are worse than DJ right now. They believe Nabers is better for this team long-term. This team is not built in a single draft or a single pick.

Ok by saying this you are essentially saying they Penix of JJ are NOT long term solutions for the Giants ....this in fact actually means they believe keeping Jones at QB and drafting a WR is better then JJ or Penix....

Again if they actually thought that LOW of Jones right now ...they would have moved on ... because that would mean Penix or JJ are the better long term plans

they simply didn't think that

Maye yes they probably did...but JJ or Penix def not
#32
Quote from: H-Town G-Fan on April 25, 2024, 09:23:31 PMThey tried to move up for Maye as of earlier today. If they were picking #1, you think they go WR and keep DJ? Of course not. The WR pick has nothing to do with DJ.

Looking at the complete picture here

The Giants like most only viewed 3 QBs in this draft as franchise QBs or QBs that have a SIGNIFICANT chance at being a franchise QB so yes maybe Joe made the calls and tried to get Maye

But if they thought any of Penix, JJ or even Bo Nix were possibly their future QB they would have no doubt drafted one of them

They didn't ..... you don't pass on them if you are DONE with Jones.....

out of all Caleb,Daniels,Maye,Jones,Penix,JJ,Nix

They simply viewed Jones as the 4th best of the bunch

You don't pass on a QB if you think you have that big a hole at QB
#33
Quote from: Jclayton92 on April 25, 2024, 09:21:12 PMYou said that Michigan Had a clear advantage everywhere on the field besides Qb when they didn't. Penix' offense was significantly better in multiple areas. I'm not saying one is better than the other, simply that it wasn't some landslide talent wise.

Whatever the accolades that Washington received no one believed they really had a team that could beat Michigan .... the only clear advantage they had was they had the better QB
#34
Quote from: jgrangers2 on April 25, 2024, 09:19:44 PMBroncos and Raiders were probably talking to the Jets too

Yea I was judging too quickly..this is a legit factor
#35
Quote from: AZGiantFan on April 25, 2024, 09:18:55 PMMaybe someone was talking with the Jets to jump ahead of Minny.  Or the Jets convinced them there was.

Ok this is true ....good point
#36
Quote from: MightyGiants on April 25, 2024, 09:18:02 PMhttps://x.com/AdamSchefter/status/1783666190444896473

Jets werent taking a QB ..... dumb trade

Unless another team was trying to get that pick as others have said
#37
Quote from: Jclayton92 on April 25, 2024, 09:13:56 PMHuh? Washington's oline won the award for best offensive line in the country and Washington's 3 deep at wr was better than any wr on Michigan.


Okay and your point ? Michigan is in the Big Ten... no one had Washington winning that game .... the only reason people thought they had a slither of a chance was because they possessed the clear better QB ...exactly why Atlanta chose him over JJ

#38
Were the Jets really a threat to pick a QB ? Why would Minny do this
#39
Dude the bears are going to be a problem for the near and distant future
#40
And this pick right here goes hand in hand with my previous point

CFB CHampionship game was a CLEAR advantage to Michigan except at one position QB


Picking JJ at 6th would have been a HUGE reach .... Atlanta didn't fall for the recent Kool Aid ... they may have reached for Penix .. but they knew who was a bigger reach ..ad Penix RIGHTFULLY so was not the bigger reach

Joe made the right decision with Nabers... I'm happy
#41
Lol.. wow how are people getting these picks in so quickly .. no way I was this delayed
#43
Quote from: katkavage on April 25, 2024, 09:01:14 PMThey will be right there drafting high up again next year.

Lol no one knows where will pick

the same QB we are blasting right now was the same one who got an extension and led us to a 2nd round playoff birth

We don't know where we will be next season
#44
What of Giants do some funky ish... trade next years first round pick or something to pick in front of Vikings this year and take JJ lol

I know it wont happen ..but we already picked just being silly now
#45
Quote from: AZGiantFan on April 25, 2024, 08:59:20 PMTo the extent you are correct, especially about Daniels, it kind of makes nonsense of the argument that next year's QB class is poor.  A year in college ball can change things widely.

This is an excellent point

Peoples thoughts on a QB can change in as quickly as one single month

If one of these top QBs of this WEAK QB class has a great season it all of a sudden does not look so weak anymore