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Quote from: Jolly Blue Giant on February 06, 2024, 04:20:08 PMThat's quite a resume for a TE's coach. He's held some high positions for a guy who's only 37 yrs old. Seems the Giants are on a youth movement. Giants might have Kelly in mind for a future OC job, as Kafka is going to get poached some day...probably his last year as Giants' OC

OC Mike Kafka 36 yrs old
DC Shane Bowen 37 yrs old
STC Michael Ghobrial 37 yrs old

I mentioned in a post a while back, that with Daboll's personality, the Giants might want to stay away from older, weathered, proven guys who have a hard time letting a 48 yr old rookie head coach try to push them in the direction he doesn't want to go because they believe they already have all the answers, and they ain't going to take kindly to some whipper-snapper HC yelling at them. Maybe the guys in the front office read my post...LOL 

Unlike our new OL Coach Carmen Bricillo, Kelly won't be mistaken for Daboll on the sideline. He's got plenty of hair

Ric,

Your point about age is a good one

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Quote from: Fletch on February 06, 2024, 02:07:56 PMSo 30 other teams didn't know about that? So after all these years of him being either unemployed ; making a fool of himself in NC. Starting PJ Walker at QB etc. He lands a job as an OC's assistant. Yet some here will still sing his praises ... I bet it is because of the Eli thing. 5 years of horrible QB play and another season of a season over before Oct. I am still reading here "yep that McAdoo sure was smart for wanting Mahomes and benching Eli...."

So I expect Mcadoo to see a very large role in the up coming draft finding the next Pat Mahomes 

To the point in bold.  McAdoo will be a SENIOR assistant.  That is a title used for coaches who take on a mentor/advisor type role as opposed to just an assistant coach, which is usually the coach stuck doing all the lesser tasks like breaking down film and scouting upcoming opponents.

Lance Zierlein:


NFL evaluators have described McCarthy's processing as "elite" in my conversations with them.



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One thing to remember is that teams don't trade back if they have only a single draft target.  They trade back when they have more draft targets than slots they will drop, or they are given an offer that is too good to pass up.  We witnessed the one-spot trade down for a player last year when the Giants traded up a slot for Banks.  The team trading wanted to make sure the Giants were drafting the guy they were targeting. 

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Quote from: Ed Vette on February 06, 2024, 12:24:55 PMThey need to sign McKinney.

He's going to be expensive, but if they don't that's yet another hole to fill

Quote from: katkavage on February 06, 2024, 12:09:23 PMThere are no givens in the draft with the exception of Williams and Harrison going in the top five. The evaluation period has not really begun with the top QBs. Free agency hasn't started yet and that will effect the draft. I see risers and fallers. I see significant trades coming. It should be fun because nothing is set in stone as of February 6.

Most of the QB prospects were expected to declare or enter the draft all season.  Teams already have quite a bit on them.  The one exception was McCarthy, who no one was sure would declare.  I think Penix could rise or fall based on his physical.  I think McCarthy could rise or fall based on more information.

The Combine throwing and measurements might move the needle slightly.

The interviews and whiteboard work could ding or boost a candidate a bit, but at this point, I think teams have a pretty good idea of how both of these will go, but you can never rule out surprises.

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Quote from: madbadger on February 06, 2024, 12:07:04 PMNope. Back in the late 80's, early 90's players stayed in college for four years, even the elite players. The elite players have five to play four. All the NIL does is make that the norm again. Personally I think it's healthy for the league. They're getting a more mature player who's been exposed to having life changing money.any of the bs that would trip up a 20 year old rookie is out of the way. It'll take another year or two to work its way through the system but they still only have four to play five. Sooner or later they'll enter the draft.

Back then the talent pool was only being split 28 ways as opposed to today's 32 ways

The new DC seems to lean heavily on safeties, the the Giants will need to shore up this unit by keeping McKinney or adding through the draft or free agency

That is a daunting list; here are their PFF grades and snaps  (special teamers not included)

A. Jackson 48.6  792 snaps
Barkley 70.2  702 snaps
T. Tylor 71.4 373 snaps
I. Simmons 68.9 378 snaps
A. Robinson 58.6 515 snaps
P. Campbell 51.4 207 snaps
Nacho 46.3 461 snaps
McKinney 87.8 1.128 snaps
J. Ward 42.4 661 snaps
M. Breida 52.4 289 snaps
S. Shepard 50.1 142 snaps
J. Davis IR
M. Peart 42.9 133 snaps
J.C. Hassenauer 0
D. Holmes 63.9 123 snaps
B Brederson 42.1 1014 snaps
Wyatt Davis IR
S. Lemieux 34.3 91 snaps
N. McCloud 74.8 312 snaps
B. Whitely 30.0 14 snaps
D. Beavers PS
C. Couglin 59.5 2 snaps

Quote from: H-Town G-Fan on February 06, 2024, 11:50:04 AMIn the 2020 season without a DC, the Titans ranked 24th in scoring. The next season with Bowen as DC, 6th. If anything, there's a correlation between Vrabel helming defenses and underperformance. So I'm still not convinced that failing to get him is a miss or that Bowen is a bad hire. Milquetoast? Sure. But 2 months ago no one knew Dennard Wilson's name, and now failing to secure him is a most lamentable tragedy. I just am not going to get bent out of shape about most of this stuff when Bowen ticks most boxes... except "exciting," apparently.

My thought on this hire, is that we are in the "better to be lucky than good" situation.  If it was about NYG correctly identifying and acquiring what they believe to be the best coaching talent, this isn't it.

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