Big Blue Huddle

Quote from: uconnjack8 on January 14, 2024, 03:05:52 PMFrom this data, I think the NFL is looking long term because streaming is the future. 

I think their long-term thinking speaks for itself as of now with what they have done in those last 20 years.

If you have the oldest fan base of any sport its a good idea to look at how younger people are consuming tv.  Not that it will matter if what I read about younger generations interest in sports is true, and it's much lower than previous groups.  But streaming, a show on Nickelodeon and some other campaigns say to me the NFL is very much focused on the future.

As for the baseball part, every sport has hits peak and eventually plays 2nd fiddle to something.  The NFL will not be king forever.

Do we have median ages for the Super Bowl for the last 3 years?  Not sure if that matters for this debate or not.

I find the NFL's streaming efforts to be rather interesting.  Young people don't stream their video content because they are young.  They do so because it's the convenience generation.  They want what they want when they want it and with minimal effort.   They want to view content on their schedule and where they want to view it. They want their food delivered to their homes rather than takeout or even eat-in.   They don't want to shop for goods; they want to shop online and have them delivered. 

The NFL is the ultimate content for broadcast TV because people need to view it live and are forced to the strongest degree of any content to view commercials.  It also helps boost shows that follow football.  That is what makes the NFL so valuable to broadcast TV.   Streaming services want the NFL because it's the sort of offering that, if made exclusive, entices more people to sign up for the service.  Beyond that, it's just very expensive content that has one-and-done value.  So fundamentally, football is more valuable to broadcast television than to streaming services.

As for Nickelodeon, that is a smart move.  Still, if you don't treat your customers well and you are nickel and diming them you will ultimately lose them or never get them

I did not know that

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https://x.com/nfl_dovkleiman/status/1746605888582885657?s=46&t=1vcQIN8GqF5J2oLdxEVEJQ

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Quote from: TDToomer on January 14, 2024, 12:30:28 PM17 rookie Cornerbacks qualified for a PFF rating? How many of them started 15 games?

The filter I used was 20% of 1146 snaps

If you want a higher threshold

50% of 1146 snaps-  9th (or last place)

One more insight on Banks

Quote from: TDToomer on January 14, 2024, 12:06:20 PMI cannot for the life of me understand how Banks is rated so poorly. I thought he had an outstanding rookie season and should make all-rookie. I'm going by my eyeball test. He's had as good of a rookie season that Aaron Ross had in 07.

When it comes to CBs, one measure I value as much as their overall grade is the QB rating when targetted-  84.7

For some context, 84.7 is 5th best among rookie CBs.

His PFF grade is 17th among rookies.

Quote from: Philosophers on January 14, 2024, 11:45:43 AMThis is 100% wrong Rich.  First in college Rich every head coach is in charge of the entire football program.  Harbaugh is no different than any other college head coach.

Second, Harbaugh has never ashes for the GM role as well.  He has said he absolutely hates the decisions GMs have to make regarding personnel, contracts, etc. All he wants is to be able to instill his culture among the players and coach them.

With the 49ers he worked fine early on with their GM but Trent Baalke proved to be a complete idiot.  Baalke failed everywhere after that.

I can't say you're wrong, as this sort of reporting is less than certain.  I will say we will get a pretty good idea of Lombardi's claims being accurate if Harbaugh returns to the NFL and we see how much power he wields.

Quote from: Brooklyn Dave on January 14, 2024, 11:31:53 AMIf the Cowboys don't do that well in the playoffs and Jerry Jones fires McCarthy and hires Belichick who then reunites with Josh McDaniels as his OC and brings along Mike Vrabel as his DC, what would be your thgoughts and would you have any concerns short term or even long term ( 3 years ) ?

Seems like Bill would want more control of team than Jerry Jones would be will to give

Quote from: Ed Vette on January 14, 2024, 10:48:24 AMWhat players that remained or left had an upswing in production from the Joe Judge regime to the Daboll team and as FA's that moved on? It's obvious Dex did as he was put in his proper position. Okereke had a better year here. Some of the O line who left faired better. Jones was up and down. Saquon, had injury issues. Slayton did better as did Engram away. The O line regressed with the exception of Thomas. Adoree went downhill. Can you compare the PFF Judge results total Offense and Total Defense to the two years of Daboll? Not player by player just total O&D separately for each of the four years. You can include special teams. Would we assume there are better players for Daboll? I think in some cases yes and some no.

This is from Len's article

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on January 14, 2024, 10:32:24 AMI'm not really defending this, but how does the average PFF grade for rookies compare to say that of all fourth and fifth year players?

The grades for the 4th and 5th-year players are generally better.  Of course, the longer you are on a team (or even in the league), the more filtering you see as poor players are let go and eventually find themselves out of the league or barely hanging on via the PS.

Quote from: Doc16LT56 on January 14, 2024, 10:26:12 AMSo McFadden is the only one who graded as average. Every else was below average. The four OL picks were among the lowest grades.

The question of how much is on coaching and how much in talent is the right question to ask. It's ultimately up to Joe Schoen to figure it out and find a way to improve things.

Robinson also earned himself an average grade

Quote from: Philosophers on January 14, 2024, 10:11:40 AMDabs seems to prefer coaches he knows from working together.  I hope he casts a wide net and remains open minded.

Dabs hadn't worked together with either WInk or Kafka.  Daboll was even praised for his more open approach in terms of building his coaching roster.  However, now, people are pointing to that same process as a contribution to the coaching friction as they didn't have previous relationships and the ability to handle adversity together.