Big Blue Huddle

To answer the question, I have TotalAV installed on a DELL Series 7 running WIN10 Pro, 64 bit as it can't do 11. If and when I need to change I might look into Linux. But for now, it's not an issue.

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Quote from: Fletch on January 03, 2024, 05:27:09 PMDon't you think you're going a little overboard w the Rodgers hate? Yea I guess it was cowardice of him not man up and say how he feels about it. Maybe ii am more forgiving.

It's probably a combination of his "different " personality with everything else.

Kinda hard to believe all the Packers games on prime time were based on me alone however.

Further kinda weird how giants in retirement did far more scum bag things including actual criminal behavior but , I keep reading about Rodgers all the time

I might be a bit more cautious in throwing around a term like "hate" lest it be judged little more than the shallow reflex it so often seems to have become.

In any case, to view Aaron Rodgers as arrogant and perhaps attention-needy with a thin-skinned accompany is, as anyone's bias might suggest, neither thoughtless nor of any real consequence.

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As far as I'm concerned, once Gettleman chose Barkley and a not a QB like Darnold (ugh) or Ed Vette's choice Josh Allen (how nice!) with the 2nd overall in 2018, the Die was cast. It was pretty much a lead-pipe that he would look for Eli's successor in 2019 despite its slimmer pickins, once Justin Herbert decided to wait a year. Dang it!

So Gman took Daniel Jones 6th overall, which at the time, wasn't thought to have been a bad pick as such although I doubt that he has cared much about it since 2021 when thereafter it all became Joe Schoen & Co's issue to deal with. And like so many things in the NFL and elsewhere, it is so often a matter of timing and luck, and sometimes culture which can cause entanglement.

When last season a new younger non-crony regime brought with them rare albeit modest success on the field, followed as it were by some further talent additions in FA and the Draft, there was every reason for optimism by even those unenthusiastic about the big bucks deal given to Daniel Jones.

Instead, we got a 180 degree smack in the face and with it more uncertainty. Uncertainty about Quarterback and certainly the Oline and with it FA, the Draft and Franchise Tag. Thus, whatever the moves, and comparisons to be made, it sure does seem to have a "square one" familiarity.

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Quote from: T200 on January 03, 2024, 02:32:42 PMI'm not a Pat McAfee fan. This isn't the first time he's had Rodgers on and, IMHO, they are both likeminded individuals. I feel like McAfee endorses what Rodgers says just by having him on the show and giving him airtime. McAfee's "apology", again, IMO, is just to cover his ass with ESPN/Disney.

I agree with you, Tim and with Rich. My thoughts exactly.

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Whether or not the Steelers ever expected Rudolph, who they drafted in Round 3 in 2018 as the 6th QB taken that year, to succeed Ben Roethlisberger is anyone's guess and was a rather moot point by the time Big Ben announced his retirement 4 years later. Prior to the 2022 season not only did the Steelers add Mitch Trubisky originally a Bears No.1 pick, but they also went ahead and Drafted Kenny Pickett in Round 1(20). Rudolph then became No.3 on the DC.

Now, however, with Trubisky a failure and Pickett having missed a couple of recent games while Rudolph delivered critical wins the past two weeks, it seems reasonable for Tomlin to ride with him this next and last regular season game in which a 10th win will clinch a place in the playoffs.

Whatever may or may not be Pickett's disposition is of no immediate consequence now or for the 2024 season.

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If they can significantly improve the talent and performance of the Oline, they will be a lot closer and better able to decide more wisely about the "skill position players by 2025.

That is, by no means, meant to suggest that it will lead to more than frequent competitiveness, e.g. Dallas Cowboys for the past 28 years.

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Second guessing is what sustains us, is it not? And never more than when "better than expected" provides for more opportunity to do so. That is, unless for those already more interested in the when, the where, and the who, of the latest Draft projection which might rescue all on board...like say, the passengers on BBH and surely not among on the ship of fools. 

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Before we start indulging our personal conceits whether it involves an amateur banalyses or a meander down the back corridors of logic, we should be aware of and appreciate no less than the following:

1.Even with the stuttering reflex that was Gettleman, the Giant are notably a less conservative organization today than at any time in the 37 years that it was in the iron grip of its HOF Owner, Wellington Mara which more or less ended in 1979 when George Young became the team's first G.M. and, while not completely ending, began to narrow the nepo-cronyism of the past. Never has it been near as complete as it is with Schoen & Daboll today.

2.Never mind the cockadoodle about this or that kind of play calling when it all depends on whether the Oline can do an adequate job in opening a hole for a runner not to mention sustaining it when needed and, of course, to give the passer the speck of time needed to go to a second option when the first isn't available. Or has too often been the case for a Giants QBs in more recent times, simply keeping him from being harassed, banged around, sacked and/or turning the ball over.

So what then is a good Oline considering that at best there may be no more than 2 on the current chart who qualify? It's hard to say, but Diehl, Seubert, O'Hara, Snee, and McKenzie might be a good model to use.

Incidentally, what was our conservative index for the staff today, not that it matters bubkes? 

Backup? Perhaps, as compared to the dozen others filling the role this season, some quite well, some I guess we could call solid if we know what exactly it means, some rather blah. Needs to be more specific.

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Of course, it's Tyrod time. He's more talented and capable than DeVito, who we will likely only see taking snaps in one, or the other, or both of the final two games if Ty gets dinged out, or because with his current 2-year deal at its end, there is- and hopefully not- anything like an added lose/lose incentive re the Draft.

In any case, I can't see much to be gained from speculating about when, where, and whether either or both may be playing next season.

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Quote from: DaveBrown74 on December 29, 2023, 02:44:22 PMThanks for sharing. That's good color.



I'll admit, I always assume the worst from a competency perspective about anything having to do with our medical and training staff. The results speak for themselves.

That indeed is a helpful input and likely explanation based on an actual experience.

However, this seemingly relentless suspicion, doubt, and criticism of the Giants training and medical staff has existed for quite some time, indeed long enough for there to have been in fact some significant turnover in personnel. We aren't just talking about a couple of years.

I doubt that more than a few of us actually know who currently are, or has in the past been, members of the Giants training, conditioning, diagnostic, medical and surgical staffs or their education, experience and competence except perhaps for one individual who may be a little too well liked and respected throughout the organization including the players, so as to perhaps cut across a personal conceit, or prompt a cavil reflex.

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The bottom line: Sincerity is strictly optional. Whether or not interesting, it does seem worth remembering.

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Quote from: katkavage on December 28, 2023, 02:49:29 PMPainter has inside info. He seems to know what Schoen will do five months from now. I wish I had that gift.

Not to worry, it might take you a little longer, but eventually your guess will be as meaningless as mine. 

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If I thought it worth saying once, why not repeat it.

The nature of the situation, characters, and events created what is sometimes referred to as a human-interest story. Given how short is the usual span of human interest of both local media and principally that of broadly disillusioned Giants fans, time would appear to have expired on the Tommy DeVito show.

Is there really more to it than that, some larger point about which a consensus needs to be developed? Are there not far more pressing issues facing the team, its owners, management and staff, and yes, even us?

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The nature of the situation, characters, and events created what is sometimes referred to as a human-interest story. Given how short is the usual span of human interest of both local media and principally that of broadly disillusioned Giants fans, time would appear to have expired on the Tommy DeVito show.

Is there really more to it than that, some larger point about which a consensus needs to be developed. Are there not far more pressing issues facing the team, its owners, management and staff, and yes, even us?

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