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#391
Big Blue Huddle / Re: NGT- Caleb Williams
December 28, 2023, 02:13:00 PM
Quote from: spiderblue43 on December 28, 2023, 01:11:03 PMIt certainly points out Riley's influence if Miller Moss (in a bowl game debut) goes viral with the spiral (6 tds..almost 400 yds.passing).

I think there is zero chance the Giants trade up for Williams..but is it possible he drops some? And do the Bears reconsider Fields as their starter... Murray's contract in Arizona..or The Patriots desire? And what about the Skins (who I think would grab him)?

Stay tuned... :surprise: 

I will take it further than a zero chance that they will trade up for Williams by suggesting that even if they decide to use their top pick on a QB- which I doubt- he won't be their target.

Please don't ask me who I think it might otherwise be as I haven't decided if it's even worth the bother.

Cheers!
#392
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Can Tommy DeVito be a solid backup QB?
December 28, 2023, 12:51:45 PM
Anything is possible in the NFL but is it likely as compared to hopefully?

Are we talking "solid" as in as good or better than Tyrod Taylor? Is that not currently the nearest and clearest comparison to make? Or are we going to start searching through the annals for a defining model? Yeezis!

Perhaps, we should relax our efforts until we learn, following FA, the Draft, OTAs, and the rest of the Preseason cockadoodle, who will have their names penciled in as QB uno, due, or tre on the rota.

Cheers!
#393
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Who needs a QB
December 25, 2023, 02:43:07 PM
Quote from: Ed Vette on December 25, 2023, 01:36:24 PMI'm about 80% committed to Bo Nix. If he drops to the second round which I doubt, he should be given consideration. They may very well pass on a QB in the first round.

Bo Nix would be my choice as well. I would be quite satisfied if they used their first pick for him, but I don't expect it to happen, or for him to still be available when the pick again.

Cheers!
#394
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Who needs a QB
December 25, 2023, 11:38:29 AM
Let's see now. Which "Franchise" QB do we see having a fair shot at winning the next Super Bowl, and where was he Drafted? I suppose we might start with Josh Allen who went 7th overall, followed by Patrick Mahomes, a 10th pick, and then at 32, Lamar Jackson, the last of the 1st Rounders.

I guess we should then include Jalen Hurts, Rd 2(53), and Dak Prescott, Rd 4(135) and, of course, no doubt, 7th Round (262nd) pick, Brock Purdy.

Hmm! A wink is as good as a nod. Know what I mean? nudge nudge.

In any case, Our Heroes won't be looking QB in Round 1. If they are to admit their mistake, it won't be until 2025.

Cheers!
#395
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Is ORT A Position Of Need?
December 23, 2023, 06:43:40 PM
We might also now consider that ORT is not quite so different from OLT as once it was. It used to be that a team's best pressuring Edge Rusher almost always was lined up against the OLT. Today, that is not always the case despite the LT having the "greater challenge" of having to protect a right-handed QB's blindside.

Moreover, whether or not there is an in-line blocking TE on that side, we more often now see a team's top rusher facing the ORT. That's due not only to any special skills he may have, but also to the greater use of Dline flexing and stunting. In any case, nothing is necessarily same as it might once have been. Perhaps, we keep that in mind when generalizing about the position?

Cheers!
#396
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Is ORT A Position Of Need?
December 23, 2023, 12:09:11 PM
Why is being fickle and rash so often characteristic of the discussions we have of such matters? It's one thing to assume something based largely on our own personal opinion and quite another to assert it as though it's a fact.

While I personally feel that if the Giants are to have a truly competitive Offense, irrespective of who's back there calling signals, or at Running Back, they must make significant improvements to their Oline by upgrading its talent everywhere possible through FA and especially the forthcoming Draft as difficult as that is bound to be.

But, certainly I don't know the Schoen/Daboll & Co thinking in the matter, or what their plans may be at this point regarding ORT and Evan Neal, and any thought of position change or, indeed, whether current Oline Coach, Bobby Johnson will even be a participant in such.

Other than being driven by our personal conceits, these are issues which have barely reached the generalization and the- if this, then that-stage which might also be referred to as " holding our water" time.

Cheers!
#397
Big Blue Huddle / Re: I didnt feel good about the Saints I feel we will beat the Eagles TWICE
December 23, 2023, 10:46:15 AM
Quote from: Sem on December 23, 2023, 10:12:51 AMPerchance to dream...

ay, there's the rub;
For in that sleep of death what dreams may come
When we have shuffled off this mortal coil,
Must give us pause: there's the respect
That make calamity of so long life

Cheers!
#398
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Is ORT A Position Of Need?
December 22, 2023, 07:37:25 PM
None of us know whose fault it has been that Neal has thus far failed to meet expectations. We may guess all we want, rightly or wrongly but hardly contrary to an already formed bias. Then again, we should not lose sight of the fact that earlier scouting and evaluating biases can be the area of greatest failure.

Cheers!
#399
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Is ORT A Position Of Need?
December 22, 2023, 06:02:37 PM
Quote from: Jclayton92 on December 22, 2023, 04:25:41 PMIt's amazing that you automatically assumed me not thinking Jones is a good football player was the reason that I posted that. Jones had nothing to do with it other than being an example of a player on the team, of which there are multiple examples of the fan base calling the player a bust and not giving them the appropriate time to develop. I list more since Jones can't get mentioned here without people getting in their feelings. Jones has just been given the most time which is glaring considering how poorly he's played.

Micah McFadden
Thibodeaux
Wandale Robinson
Flott

The list goes on of players that people called Busts immediately that are actually getting better as the season progresses because they are only In year 1 or year 2.



No need to explain, no excuse necessary. You are entitled to your bias no matter how unrelenting is its focus or whether or not it serves you well. Indeed, it was the latter that I thought worth your attention.

Cheers!
#400
Big Blue Huddle / Re: I didnt feel good about the Saints I feel we will beat the Eagles TWICE
December 22, 2023, 05:42:49 PM
You need to have a lie down Blue Cross... I mean Cruz.

Cheers!
#401
Big Blue Huddle / Re: This graph shows there was some improvement in pass protection
December 22, 2023, 02:07:33 PM
Some? Some, has been far from good enough. Don't let that stuff fool you lest you choose to be one. It serves no good purpose.

Cheers!
#402
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Is it a good thing that Darius Slayton might once again by the receiving leader?
December 22, 2023, 01:59:17 PM
My answer is, No. And as they have better options, I wouldn't expect him to be, and I dare say, neither would the Giants.

Cheers!
#403
Big Blue Huddle / Re: If QB prospects WIlliams, Maye, and Daniels are gone
December 22, 2023, 01:46:43 PM
If they were to choose a QB with their 1st pick, I hope it wouldn't involve a trade up as they have already shown some weakness in their gambling instinct. :-?? If they did, however, I would favor Maye. And then thereafter, it would be a toss up between Daniels and Nix.

But, it aint happening, so my interest is in whom and when in a latter round? Quinn Ewers in the 3rd? Spenser Rattler in the 4th? Quien sabe?

Cheers!
#404
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Is ORT A Position Of Need?
December 22, 2023, 01:04:23 PM
Quote from: Jclayton92 on December 22, 2023, 12:20:59 PMAlso Neal hasn't even played a year and hes a bust by many, let's ignore that the same group of fans are fine giving Jones 6 years to do absolutely nothing but no not the olineman that's too far!

Better to not choke on your enmity toward Jones, Jess lest the economic reality of the situation gives you apnea.

Whether or not Neal's shortcoming to date reflects poor coaching, or some sort of misjudgment, or neither, is yet uncertain. However, as there is no denying that no matter who has been injured, when and where, and the number of different lineups played, the Oline's performance has been absolutely miserable as it so often has been when relying on subpar talent.

Thus, the issue and the question posed is simply whether ORT is position of need? Should we assume that you think not, or simply haven't decided, or that it's not even worth discussing outside of whomever are the QBs and RBs impacted?

Cheers!
#405
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Is ORT A Position Of Need?
December 22, 2023, 12:15:52 PM
Quote from: ralphpal1 on December 22, 2023, 12:04:40 PMWell.lets not make the same mistake as the Jets.did with
Beckon . They kept.waiting for him to.turn the corner
Now he was getting hurt but its.the same thing

And so you are implying that they take an OT with their first pick? That certainly would not seem unreasonable to me either as I have suggested above.

Cheers! 
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