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Let's not focus on all the negatives. He did play well on many snaps too. It's an adjustment and a learning process. I wouldn't label him a Will Hernandez just yet, who btw went on to have success elsewhere.

Quote from: Philosophers on April 11, 2024, 08:28:23 AMI dont want this guy.  His mechanics break down too easily.

What exactly do you mean by that? Be specific.

Quote from: Ed Vette on April 10, 2024, 10:11:28 PMTalking' Giants, Bobby Skinner breaks down Drake Maye.

If you're sick of all the videos and podcasts, I recommend this one. Nice job Bobby. Fair, objective and astute.

What Warner did hit on is how all these QBs will have to learn and grown at the NFL level. In most cases they will face challenges they didn't face before and have to do things they didn't have to do. They won't have all day to throw, the hash marks will make a big difference, the clap will move to cadence, they will have to move the ball and get first downs, so those deep passes will not be happening all day. Which is why I think Bo Nix will have success at the next level. They will have to learn to take snaps UC and get proficient in Play Action. They will have to learn to read presnap exotic blitz packages and disguised coverages.

Those that can't or won't, will certainly fail. And we know the odds of failure.

This was a pretty good interview by John Schmeelk of Kurt Warner. A few comments and thoughts.

I respect Warner not just for his knowledge but for the kind of man he is. I remember the day in Albany at Camp where I saw him signing autographs for so many children until there were no more to sign.

I always felt he was pulled too soon that season but we all knew it was Eli's time. I felt the team would have definitely faired better that year if Warner had finished the season. Eli got his ass kicked the remainder of 2004. Fortunately it didn't break him but made him stronger.

Warner was criticized for holding the ball too long. I remember all the articles timing his release. It was a new and different system and perhaps he was in a different approach to the reads. In the interview he credited himself with being one of the best at reading Defenses and routes, and perhaps that season helped him toward his future successes. I always wondered what would have been if Eli wasn't drafted and Kurt Warner was the Giants QB in the Coughlin years.

I think that Kurt is looking at this draft class through the eyes of what he did best and I know I'll get some groans here, but he was way too harsh on Drake Maye. He failed to see all the good things he did on the field that quite frankly, Bobby Skinner pointed out. Bobby was very objective and it wasn't all roses, but he hit in his reads, the ability to move within the pocket, make incredible throws in tight windows with anticipation, throws outside the numbers in a system that didn't try to attack the middle of the field, escape pressure to make throws downfield and not check-downs while taking hits, and gaining yards with his legs when there was nothing there. Yes, Maye bounces a lot and I don't see that being eliminated completely but guess what HOF QB bounced a lot before delivery? Peyton Manning. And although Manning has a sweet Mickey Mantle swing with a beautiful delivery but he didn't have the arm that Maye has. It's not going to hurt him at the next level. He does it to keep himself in his toes to move within the pocket and avoid pressure and that's going to help him at the next level.

That said, Maye has to cut down on those wtf passes, but with the exception of one game, it's way overblown. That can be corrected.

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Talking' Giants, Bobby Skinner breaks down Drake Maye.

They can't be asking for the same compensation from all teams. It's negotiable. If they believe they can get their guy at six, the Giants can offer something significantly less. It depends what on how the draft plays out.

Reality set in on the Journeymen who never will be.

Quote from: MightyGiants on April 10, 2024, 08:39:47 AMEd,

The top QBs are getting over $50 million per

"Approaching" Five years ago 30-40 million was the QB range. In five years, we can see an OT or Edge at 40-50 million.

If his hypothesis comes to fruition, it's going to be a very costly move and a gutsy one at that. I would guess that it would cost them their second and third this year and next year's first round picks. In that case it could wind up being a GM/Coach killer, if it fails or takes too long for him to develop. I can still recall the angry fans after the Eli trade.

I think they sit at six and take who falls to them, or trade back. Looks to me like the top four will be gone by then.

Approaching QB numbers. Of course it's the guaranteed money that really counts.

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