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Quote from: Jolly Blue Giant on April 02, 2024, 05:55:48 PMI've never quite understood why some people hate her (or dislike her). My best buddy despises her. I asked him if he's ever heard one of her songs, he replies, "no, don't have to". So I ask what he knows about her, and he returns a blank face, because he doesn't even know who she is, yet he has very strong feelings about her. I raised several girls, an ex-wife, and gone through several girlfriends, and they were just absolutely crazy over her. I never met a woman who disliked her. I saw my cousin for the first time in years at a party last week. He told me his daughters are crazy about Taylor, and he went on to say, he liked her and thought she was a good role model for his girls to look up to compared to what's out there

Anyway, maybe it's macho to dislike girl singers or famous singers because for every hundred girls in love with her, there's guys who absolutely hate her. I just don't get it    Travis is a pretty macho guy, and he likes her 

Macho? No.
She's an attention seeking, look at me personality. She craves it and soaks it up. To each his own.

Way too much to read Ric. But based in the title, I dislike Taylor Swift. And all things swifty.

As a result of one man show, nobody beats the King.

The Beatles were generational and their music was the accompaniment to the massive changes in American society.

Quote from: Bob In PA on April 02, 2024, 03:20:15 PMEd: Final Jeopardy lol....  Do you like Maye more/less/same than you liked Josh Allen (or don't you recall)?  Bob

Less. Josh Allen could carry a team on his back for a quarter and will his way to win a game. It was a shame he went to Buffalo but it turns out he was lucky he didn't wind up here. Imagine Josh Allen in Dallas? Or Philly?

The Drew Lock signing might take Nix, Penix, and below off the table for the Giants.

Quote from: Bob In PA on April 02, 2024, 11:22:23 AMEd (or anyone else who cares to participate): Great post. OK, then, you're Schoen... whom do you select...

(a) Both Maye and McCarthy are there AS WELL AS your top-ranked WR (probably Harrison, but who knows!)?
Maye
(b) Both Maye and McCarthy are there AS WELL AS your 2nd-ranked WR (whomever)?
Maye
(c) The lesser (in your view) of the two QB's is there (plus your top-ranked WR)?
Daniels and if he's not there either, then the WR.
(d) The lesser (in your view) of the two QB's is there (plus your 2nd-ranked WR)?
Same.
Bob

Bob, I would trade up for Maye. I think McCarthy will be there at 6 and I would pick him there. If none of the top four are there, I pick the WR. They may pick Alt because they know more about the Neal situation than they have let on. I would be OK with that. I would move up from the second round for Nix. I would move up from the second for a WR or an O-Lineman, or stay based on how players go off.

I would trade next year's first and third to get Maye. The problem is the Pats need a QB and it may come down to JJ or Maye for them. SD will trade out for the Giants, the Pats probably not.

I do find it interesting that the Bears would be willing to trade out of the number one pick. Otherwise, why not just declare the pick?

Quote from: MightyGiants on April 02, 2024, 09:35:56 AMBobby and Justin do their breakdown of the QB draft class.

Not much to disagree with...

I agree that Calib Williams is an incredible talent, but I believe his personality issues will become a problem at the next level. I can't say he is the best QB prospect of all time but he's going to frustrate a lot of Defenses. One thing that I'll add is that he won't be a pocket QB based on what he does naturally but also because he's listed at 6'1 and that may be a stretch. He's going to have to drop deep, so more shotgun and more moving out to half the field. Moot points for us.

I agree with everything said about Drake Maye. There are two QB's perfect for Daboll and the Giants. Maye and JJ McCarthy.

Daniels is a fascinating prospect and I get what Justin's point is about him and why he would rank him number 2. I just see him as Bobby does and I also would compare him longevity-wise to RG3. He is going to get his ass kicked taking those hits at the next level and he's slight of build. At his age, his prime years are now. Not three years down the road. Also, having the best one-two WR duo is a total asset. He's not going to have that at Washington.  In the right system, I would absolutely take him. If he's on the board with Maye, it's Maye.

I would like to see JJ McCarthy be able to layer his throws at all levels and I don't see that being corrected at the next level. Strong arm but the deep throws as I've said, drop off. That said, he's got a nice upside and Daboll would be the best HC for him. If they draft him, sit him for at least a year. Because of the system he played in, I'm skeptical about labeling him and putting him in a box. It's just not fair. I think he reads the field better than Jones and he works well in a system and that's important at the next level.  Again, I think he should have transferred and stayed another year.

One of the best things about Bo Nix is his intangibles as a leader, as a locker-room Coach, and as a mature man. He has a decent accurate arm, sees the field well, and makes good decisions. He even has made some of those same Calib and Mahomes throws. He has good pocket awareness. I just don't know if he's the guy Daboll would be looking to drive the ball down the field. Like Daniels and his WR's, a huge plus is that O-line he had and a Run Game. When you can average 6.5 yards a game rushing with your one-two punch, it's a game-changer.

The Giants won't draft a QB with an injury history after the DJ saga. Great arm, yada... Penix as a Southpaw requires some system changes. I think he will be a good prospect for some team on day-two. He will need a good O-line as a pocket passer. I also think Justin was kindly polite to Chris Simms over that stupid tweet CS made.

Here's the thing, which QB's would Drew Lock be better than? If it's a close call, then pass.

For this draft for the Giants, it's Maye, McCarthy and Nix. In that order.

 His other unique trait, one that might not help him all that much in the pros: He is far more effective against zone defenses than against man. His career raw QBR against zone was 86.9 (11th overall), but his QBR against man was just 63.1 (107th). He wasn't blessed with USC's or LSU's receiving corps -- and obviously you need man-beating receivers to beat man coverage -- but with players like Josh Downs (in 2022) and Tez Walker (in 2023) he wasn't exactly lacking options either.


Among 126 QBR-eligible quarterbacks in 2023, Maye ranked 10th against zone and 105th against man. That is a unique and, considering he'll face more man coverage in the pros, not entirely encouraging combination.

He posted his 22/23 stats but Josh Downs was at UNC for 2022 and not 2023. Maye's 2022 season was much better. Tez Walker missed 4 games in 2023 due to an incorrect interpretation of the transfer rules.

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Anyone agree with these  comparisons?

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/boston/news/espn-data-driven-comparisons-drake-maye-jayden-daniels-nfl-draft/

Maybe missed two throws out of 70 passes. Chris Simms was born on third base and thought he hit a triple. Is that a fair contrast?

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A three year old article after a Covid year disparaging a now Backup QB.

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