Big Blue Huddle

Gano is a positive.

Quote from: Rambo89 on October 03, 2023, 01:22:26 PMHow does Waller get a bad grade when he was barely targeted?  Same goes for Hyatt?

He's a terrible blocker maybe?

Quote from: MightyGiants on October 03, 2023, 10:25:35 AMThe Giants kept Brightwell.  I remember his stupid shoving penalty that pinned the team deep after a punt.  Was that SMART or DEPENDABLE?

That's fine because he made for it by running into the kick on a punt so they can have a new set of downs.

Sad but so true..

I don't think Jackson is tradable and actually needs to be benched.
There is no reason to give him anymore playing time if he is going to play the way he has this season moving forward!

Neal,Glow and Lemieux shouldn't get playing time in this league.
Last night they all were so bad in spots that I'm impressed Jones didn't get carried off the field.

I was told by Killarich that we needed to see tape before I was allowed to complain that they didn't do enough with the oline this off season.

Well how's that tape looking now? I still can't believe that only added a rookie Center to this oline group while paying a couple of average at best WRs $5.2mil and $5mil this season.

Quote from: PSUBeirut on September 29, 2023, 11:21:26 AMFor me- my expectations were falsely heightened with all of the glowing camp reports about the offense.  The reports of the OL doing better, Waller being a true #1 target, our WR depth coming on strong, DJ looking better and more confident, etc.  Before those reports I was expecting a true growth year for all involved (which is how it's looking) rather than the potential to make some noise (still possible...but less likely for sure). 

Just goes to show that training camp can be (and always seems to be) deceptive for the fans.

Going against this Giants defense with very little pass rush will be making a lot offenses look better then they should.
Add in the tackling issues and it's pretty ugly.

Not saying it's the truth of this situation but it has been documented that people will strive to meet some goals then not work as hard once those goals were accomplished and  maybe this should apply to the coaches with some of them feeling they have arrived.
We would all hope that the goal wasn't just one playoff win!

Another option is the loss of in the moment focus because the expectation is now greater so they are more worried about getting the win or proving the doubters incorrect instead of just taking care of the business at hand. We see this with players who sign a new big contract and they become too involved with proving the contract instead of being confident and playing in the moment.

Quote from: Bob In PA on September 28, 2023, 11:56:48 AMRambo: Schneier is right, but..... so far Jones and Herbert are both 1-2.

IMO Jones' opponents (as a whole) in his first three games were slightly better teams than Herbert's opponents.

For a direct comparison, let's see how Herbert faces against the Cowboys in two weeks.

Bob

A cowboys team without their best CB might be winnable for them.

Quote from: JT39 on September 27, 2023, 09:58:36 PMIm not trying to bring this down cause I like his game - but he hasn't finished 2 of 3 games this year lol

That is an issue if it continues.

Quote from: MightyGiants on September 27, 2023, 12:46:05 PMHe was hand-picked by Daboll (they worked together in Buffalo).  I believe he was one of the first position coaches hired.  In those situations, it usually takes quite a bit for the coach to get fired.  As I have said before, I think this team is missing assistant O-line coach Tony Sparano Jr., who was hired by the Colts and has that line blocking well.

Have the Bills olines played good back when these two were coaching them?
I'm sorry I don't usually watch many of the games besides the Giants.

How is Bobby Johnson still allowed to coach them?

Quote from: MightyGiants on September 27, 2023, 06:04:15 AMHard to say.  It might just be a case that Mckinney is a poor fit for Wink's system

The new excuse for bad defensive play these days..

Quote from: MightyGiants on September 22, 2023, 10:51:36 AMLearning that Pennock has 6 missed tackles, I could see Dane Belton or Bobby McCain starting to get more snaps at safety

That's a move I hope they do!

Quote from: Rambo89 on September 26, 2023, 09:32:55 AMI'm in the camp that they haven't gotten the return in the offensive line play for all that they've invested into it.  The issue isn't that they haven't tried to fix the offensive line or invested highly into it.  There isn't a team that has invested two top 10 picks into their offensive line.  Teams that have invested less have gotten better line play than the Giants.

They had a real bad oline last season and their solution was to only draft a Center to fix it for this season.
Sucks that the Neal pick has been a bust so far but the player does have a great work habbit and maybe can turn it around but in my eyes you have to dismiss that investment at this time because he's been so bad.