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I think day two or trade down mid first, but I like Nate Wiggins.
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Quote from: Jolly Blue Giant on March 30, 2024, 09:02:42 PMTo be fair, there was such a major transition from early 60's to late 60's...the difference so vast, you would never think of them as in the same decade. And the Beatles were a huge part of it. But so did the political spectrum. JFK had been assassinated, and we were up to our necks in Vietnam and nationwide protests. Cutsie songs like "It's My Party", "Judy's Turn To Cry", and "You Don't Own Me", by Leslie Gore...or even "Downtown" by Petula Clark didn't fit in with the mood of the country. The 60's (well...after '66) was all about drugs, Vietnam, politics, and breaking down the establishment. Musicians that tapped into that feeling made out very well

The Beach Boys started in '62, but rose to fame in '63 singing about hot rods, surfing, girls, summer at the beaches, etc. In '65, they released "Pet Sounds" with songs like, "Wouldn't It Be Nice" and "Good Vibrations" that took it up to a different notch. The radical 60s hadn't really taken complete hold yet. Dittos with early Beatles

But you are right about the Beatles, they changed everything about what we thought of music. They really hit the big time when their music crossed the pond into America in '64. They had been a hit in the UK for more than a couple years, but their music never really hit the US until Ed Sullivan brought them over and that was the beginning of everything. It even surprised the Beatles that they were such a big hit and were amazed at the screaming, fainting, pants peeing fans. They didn't get that in the UK where they were popular, but not insane. After hitting the U.S., it didn't matter what they sang, it went to the top of the charts almost instantly from "Help", "I Wanna Hold Your Hand", "She Loves You", "I saw her standing there", "Strawberry Fields", etc.

The Stones were jealous, as they were sucking hind-tit to the Beatles, but a whole lot of other English bands came out of nowhere (in America anyway) and made it almost as big..."Who", "Dave Clark Five", "The Hollies", "The Yardbirds", "Kinks", etc

By '67, they changed music again by getting into the psychedelic phase of the lives, "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Heart Club Band", "Revolution", "Back in the USSR", etc.

In 1969, a little known fact (as the Beatles were breaking up), but the two bands that sold more records and had more hits than any other groups, were Three Dog Night, and Tommy James and the Shondells.

So to your point, yeah...that chart about the 60's is bogus, and it had to be one person's opinion who had a distaste for the Beatles, Beach Boys, etc. Hell, Elvis Presley was still cutting records and was huge throughout the 60s

The Beatles adapted to the times and the mood of the country as they evolved. Then they even did well on their own.

Three Dog Night was the most underrated band from that time period. Bread was the most underappreciated of the 70's.

Quote from: Philosophers on March 31, 2024, 09:50:21 AMRich - beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.  It simply is not what she looks like coming into the bar but what she is like after 4 hours of talking with her.

And never at closing time.

Quote from: Ed Vette on March 31, 2024, 10:01:06 AMJosh Allen's CP has been up and down and his style as a gunslinger holds him back some years where he tries to do to get much. JJ and Daniels showed improvement in their college years. It's not improbable at all.

Josh Allen's CP has been up and down and his style as a gunslinger holds him back some years where he tries to do to get much. JJ and Daniels showed improvement in their college years. It's not improbable at all.

Quote from: spiderblue43 on March 31, 2024, 09:49:29 AMIf Maye falls to 6, how can the Giants not take him? They can grab a wr (a true boundary one) and a cb with the first three picks.

Still cant believe he'll fall that far.  The JJ train seems to be no stopping, now maybe to # 2? Crazy.

That's the thing. It's very possible the Giants sit at six and take a QB of the top four or if one isn't there, a WR. Although I can see them drafting Bo Nix at six and shock the world if the other four are taken. Even if their predraft interest shows otherwise.

Eli Manning and Brett Farve had bad College Completion %'s and went on to improve. In fact Eli improved when McAdoo came on board with his Offense and Coaching. There are likely many examples of improved mechanics and a shorter passing game that Improved stats. Take a look at Bo Nix from Auburn to Oregon. QB's who throw deeper and in shorter windows also tend to have a lower completion percentage.

Not that any of this matters because the Giants may wind up facing Drake Maye twice a year as he carves up their secondary.

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Quote from: uconnjack8 on March 30, 2024, 04:48:21 PMSerious question:  What does a guy like Simms see in the throwing part of pro-day?  Its scripted throws in shorts with no defense.  Do people really walk away from those impressed?  It's a dog and pony show

You compare them to the other pro days. Look to see if there are any improvements in what has been flagged from the season. There was a drop-off in play by Maye from 2022 to 2023 so what were the factors besides losing his top receiver for several games and the drop in talent around around him?

Quote from: Rosehill Jimmy on March 30, 2024, 04:20:24 PMI think in our collective heart of hearts we know you're right. But what better place than an anonymous message board as a platform to demonstrate that you are the smartest person in the room?  And if our posts elicit a laugh or two, all the better 

Actually not my words. A quoteless copy that went under the radar by the author. Although applied to 34 pages of hype... yada, yada, yada.