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I was impressed by the line play last night.  I have to think Pugh was a major reason the line calmed down.

That and I think last night was Neal's best game as a professional

Quote from: True Blue on October 16, 2023, 09:03:10 AMI'd argue the refs did the ripping at the end

While the shirt pull is called PI, it didn't appear that the tug really impacted Waller's movements. 

In my mind, that was a low percentage throw.  I'm not sure if that was by plan by Daboll or choice by Taylor (I suspect it was Daboll's intention, but it's not the play call I would have gone with.

You have a mobile QB and 1 yard to go.  Bootleg!   As Taylor roles out, you put the defenders in great conflict.  Do they go for Taylor to prevent him from running into the end zone, which leaves the receivers open or do they cover the receivers and leave Taylor to run the one yard into the end zone?

First, the immediate sense I got watching the Giants last night was that Tyrod seemed more relaxed and functional in the Giants' offense.  I was wondering if the offense would have done as well with Daniel Jones behind center.   

Still, over the past few years, we have seen many fans create a standard that the Giants' QB needs to be held.   To that end:

Taylor only threw for 200 yards

The Taylor led offense failed to score a TD with 5 trips into the red zone including 2 snaps at the one yard line

Taylor cost the Giants 3 - 7 points by switching a pass play to run and allowing the clock to expire at the 1-yard line at the end of the second half.

The Giants were only able to score 9 points against an injury-depleted Bills defense even with Barkley adding 93 rushing yards

Taylor also enjoyed the advantage of playing with a lead (first time this season)


So I am torn between former Pro Bowler Tyrod Taylor not looking that bad and perhaps better than Jones on the field and the way we have been conditioned to evaluate Daniel Jones which suggests Taylor had a very poor night.

I really don't know what to make of things.


We could have witnessed evidence that Jones is shot (although it's possible Jones could regain his poise, but that doesn't happen often)

We could have just seen flash with no substance since production was no better with Taylor than with Jones

It's possible that hearing so much negative toward Jones (as illustrated in this thread) maybe things would have gone better with Jones.  Maybe Jones doesn't check to a run, or they score a TD in one of the 5 trips to the red zone, and the Giants win.

Frankly, I am not sure what the answer is based on the information available.

I guess the silver lining in all of this is that the Giants season may be effectively over, but things certainly will remain interesting.

Things were looking good for most of the game

Things started to look bad

The Giants rally to give us hope

They only raised us up with that hope to rip it (and our hearts) away at the last possible second

 

https://x.com/NYPost_Schwartz/status/1713727000156721558?s=20

Does Josh Allen's old OC know how to shut him down?

https://x.com/Dan_Salomone/status/1713719578293919861?s=20

https://x.com/art_stapleton/status/1713707737559777622?s=46&t=1vcQIN8GqF5J2oLdxEVEJQ

Please post game comments here

https://x.com/lancemedow/status/1713694156462104769?s=46&t=1vcQIN8GqF5J2oLdxEVEJQ

Quote from: EDjohnst1981 on October 15, 2023, 09:28:49 AMApologies, I thought I read this morning that he hasn't practised.

Edit - I misread Duggan's tweet. He's not been a full participant in practice since the injury. My mistake.

No worries, unfortunately, I think we all find it challenging to keep track of all the injured Giants and their statuses

Quote from: EDjohnst1981 on October 15, 2023, 09:20:16 AMWithout any practice this week, I'd be shocked if Barkley plays.

Barkley has been listed as limited in practice the last few weeks

Quote from: andrew_nyGiants on October 15, 2023, 08:57:20 AMSo many games missed over his career here. I can't help feeling that If we had an average offensive line, how much more valuable and productive he would've been.

Which reminds me, we're going on 5 missed games for our All-Pro left tackle after what was initially reported as a mild hamstring?!

What's up with that?


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Ronnie Barnes is what happened to Thomas.  As to where he is at

https://x.com/DDuggan21/status/1713522120657936865?s=20

https://x.com/RapSheet/status/1713467495259185166?s=20

https://x.com/JordanRaanan/status/1713306586276302936?s=20


Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
Not sure why the Giants wouldn't sign DeVito to the 53. He's QB2 while Jones is out and could be the emergency QB3 when (if?) he returns.

Only 3 OLB for tomorrow: Thibodeaux, Ward, Basham.

Only 2 P-squad OL added is a good sign that Evan Neal (questionable, ankle) will play. Interested to see who is the swing tackle. Pugh and Mayfield have played tackle in the past, but both are guards.