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If injuries are a big deciding factor in moving aside from Jones how can the Giants then use a premium pick(2nd) on Pennix? He throws a beautiful ball, but those injuries scare me. When one looks at the Giants objectively it's hard to have any enthusiasm for their chances of winning given all their gaping roster holes, and the number of opportunities to fill them with just competence let alone upper level players.
How depressing is that?

He's probably weighing all the pro/con options. I don't know the man, and what his priorities are, but if it was me the following would be considered. Have I made enough to live comfortably, and what are my options going forward. What is my body telling me, I've been injured, do I want to consider more/continued nagging injuries. What's my family situation/where to put down roots. Can I walk away from the game satisfied.
Maybe he knows what he wants to do. Let's say it's retirement. Doing so now creates another hole on the team, another vulnerability/weakness that other teams can exploit in the draft/free agency. 

Quote from: Sem on March 06, 2024, 10:16:01 PMThanks I appreciate your reply. I'll definitely listen to those songs. I remember buying Wake of the Flood as a teen even though I was completely unfamiliar with anything on the album. It was in the cut outs for a couple bucks, I'd heard some of their songs and thought I'd give it a try. It became one of my go-to late night chill albums. I no longer have it, or any of my old LPs as I donated my turntable and albums, not wanting to pack and move them from NY to CA. But before I did I digitized a bunch of albums, Wake of the Flood being one of them. The copy sits on my music server and I still listen to it from time to time.

Here is a great Eyes of the World played at one of their iconic shows, Englishtown, NJ 9/3/77 in front of about 150,000 folks. That's right 150,000.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30f_Eo9ynW8&ab_channel=GottMike1832

Quote from: Sem on March 06, 2024, 07:13:59 PMThat's awesome!! I never saw them in concert, nor would I consider myself a big Grateful Dead fan. I only have one of their albums - "Wake of the Flood," which I do really like. Also a few years ago @weeze burned me a copy of "American Beauty." Aside from those two albums I'm only familiar with their hits. Though I have known about the significance of the 1970 Binghamton concert, in the grand scheme of things, because I don't live totally under a rock. 

There is a famous quote "there is nothing like a Grateful Dead concert". It's true. At my first aforementioned concert I was straight, just on oxygen, and the music itself just blew me away, floating on a cloud. They had the best sound system in the business. A formula that has been copied. Their music is an amalgam of several genres. Rock, country, bluegrass, and jazz. Jerry was greatly influenced by bluegrass, Phil Lesh the bassist was classically trained. Ok so you're familiar with Wake of the Flood. Albums are nice but their genius is live. Improvisational jamming at it's best. No two shows are alike. Go onto archive.org and you can search Grateful Dead. Listen to the Mississippi Half Step from the 77' show I posted, you can go to you tube and search Grateful Dead, or just search Eyes of the World, Here Comes Sunshine and you'll get a feel for live vs album. Turn it up, and enjoy. There is a reason so many of us Heads travelled around to see them. Another famous quote "they're not the best at what they do, but the only ones who do what they do".

He's light years better than Bredzinski. Did they send Rempe down to Hartford? Cuylie- Wennberg- Vesey can be an effective 3rd line. Edstrom- Goodrow- Bredzinski would be the 4th. It's good they made the trade now. He can get in a practice or two, and get acclimated before their next game on Saturday. 

Quote from: Ed Vette on March 06, 2024, 05:39:11 PMLet's see where Penix gets drafted. If two ACL's were an issue, then he shouldn't be drafted at all. Which completely negates the DJ narrative that the Giants are moving on from Jones because of injury issues.

The BS is nothing more than a few fans trying to get save face.

The neck injuries are the concern for me. One more bad hit, fall, twist and he could be forced to retire, or incur a life altering injury.

Quote from: Sem on March 06, 2024, 03:25:30 PMThe Grateful Dead's May 2nd 1970 concert at SUNY Binghamton was an important concert in the band's evolution.

"The Grateful Dead's performance at SUNY Binghamton on May 2, 1970 is the stuff of legend, even for a band with a lengthy history of such events. Not only was the show seven hours of music, not only was it all broadcast on FM radio several weeks later and not only was it widely bootlegged and finally released as Dick's Picks Vol. 8. The show epitomized the expansion of the Grateful Dead from a cultish phenomenon in San Francisco and Manhattan to an extended community throughout the United States and beyond. I would argue that no show did more than Binghamton to expand the band's legend, since it was broadcast, circulated on bootleg lps, circulated on tape and then finally released, so Heads of every era absorbed it as their own."

https://hooterollin.blogspot.com/search/label/Binghamton

https://www.amazon.com/Dicks-Picks-Vol-College-Binghamton/dp/B00004TYB6



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TV_O-VgxmPU

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Here's 11/6/77. When I say I'm a fan I've been to 150+ shows, and now see the main cover bands for lack of a better term. Dead & Co., Phil & Friends, Joe Russo's Almost Dead, DSO, and Stella Blues Band(NYC Metro), and some others. My first show 9/2/78 with about 40,000 of my closest friends in Giants Stadium.

https://archive.org/details/gd77-11-06.sbd.nawrocki.283.sbeok.shnf

John Mayer asked Bobby how would I know the Dead. Bobby told him listen to 1977, and Spring of 90'. They were blazing hot in 77', and 90' was a very good year.

Looks like we got Wennberg for a 2nd in 24, and a 4th in 25'.

Quote from: Jolly Blue Giant on March 06, 2024, 01:20:17 PMBack in my teen years, my older friends would go to "Harpur College" to buy drugs...in particular, "window pane acid" that students made in the school lab. One guy showed me a sheet of construction paper with lines drawn like graph paper on it, only in one inch squares. You could see in each square where the acid had been dropped. They would cut the paper up in one inch squares and then chew it up to get the acid. I pointed out to the guys that the drops weren't even close to being the same size. Some were the size of a nickel and other less than half that size. I told them they had no idea what they were putting in their system. They didn't care...it was the 60s. Harpur was well known for producing drugs back then. Some of the guys also got their drugs from Cornell where students were doing the same thing, but not as open about it

SUNY Broome was a highly technical school when it was Broome Tech. Nearly all the IBM engineers got their schooling there. At the time, it was strictly an engineering school. I've taken a few courses there over the years and the technical courses are every bit as grueling as the engineering courses at Binghamton U., but that is no longer the case, and it's more of a typical community college now, high in liberal arts. It's still listed as one of the top community colleges in New York, but it no longer resembles anything close to Broome Tech, although they have heavy courses in math, physics, engineering, and computer sciences. In the 70s, I went there to learn CAD/CAM because it was the only place within a hundred miles that taught that subject when it was a new technology

My son is a BU student at the Watson School of Engineering.

In a related subject to your post, being a devoted Grateful Dead fan two shows stand out 5/2/70 which took place on campus(there's a wall plaque in a dining hall), and 11/6/77 which was at Broome County Coliseum. My son tells me that one of the bars in town serves a Jerry Garcia cocktail, Deep Eddy Peach Vodka, Razzmatazz, and Triple Sec.

At the sight of Adam Schein I immediately change the channel. Unfortunately sometimes I hear a word or two before that happens.

Jones at this time is a physically compromised QB, albeit extremely well compensated. His QB shortcomings have been discussed here ad nauseum. No QB, or player is perfect. It's the injuries, ankle, knee, but most important the twice injured neck that gives me the most pause. The next one(hope it doesn't happen) could be life altering. That fact hasto give Jones pause. Human nature dictates so. That's why we need a new QB.

There's some sour grapes here. He interviewed for the GM job and didn't get it. 2 GM's, 3 coaches, the one constant is Mara. Mara opens his mouth, says we did everything to screw him up, and then goes ahead and "compensates" Jones with the contract. I've said this before, and firmly believe that the contract was Mara's doing, the two year out was a compromise. Mara lives in a much different world than we fans. No matter the W-L record the team makes ooodles of $$$$. A couple of months ago I compiled a W-L record since 65' the year I became a fan. They are about 50 games under .500 since then. An historically losing franchise. The one constant, the Maras. Take a moment to think about that. He can throw all the chairs he wants, these facts remain. TC a terrific coach, and a better man, avoided shaking Mara's hand at his exit speech. What does that tell you? 

That sucks. His family lives in Fla., so it makes sense.

Enjoy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_AbNLwQXn8&ab_channel=johnsmith

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RsKNUCYMOw&t=3s&ab_channel=johnsmith

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnNP7mWAP5k&ab_channel=johnsmith

Quote from: Ed Vette on March 06, 2024, 08:26:55 AMIf they trade down, they can get Nix or Penix and Alt and Legette. Instant upgrade. Trade down and get another second and then trade up.

I don't want Penix. It's the age thing, and paying a premium(high pick) for a dented Porsche.