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Quote from: Jclayton92 on April 25, 2024, 09:31:50 PMAll three have significantly more flaws than the prospects that were taken 1-3. They would have likely been qbs 7, 8, 9 in this draft. Will they go 1st next year possibly but the talent is nowhere near the guys that came out this year unless they take significant steps.

lol. No one, and I mean no one in the world had Daniels going second overall in this draft, this time last year. Too skinny, processed too slowly, struggled with mechanics. A year later everyone forgets about it, and no one is really talking about how much Maye regressed this year without Phil Longo calling plays for him. There will be at least two quarterbacks with top 10 grades next year. If I'm wrong this time next year I'll have no problem admitting I was wrong.

Quote from: AYM on April 25, 2024, 09:25:17 PMI don't think the Giants are on the list of approved teams for Shedeur Sanders, but the other two could be interesting. And who knows, we've seen guys come from nowhere to jump to the top of the draft - like Daniels just now.

With Nabers, Hyatt and Robinson to throw to and the ability to make tens of millions off the field I'm not so sure of that. If we can get a starting guard and running back out of this draft it becomes even more appealing.

Quote from: Jclayton92 on April 25, 2024, 09:08:04 PMYeah but most of those guys that flash one season are busts. At least you could see Daniels development in the half decade he was in college. The only flash that hit in recent memory was Burrow. Besides him you have a bunch of Zack Wilson's, and Trey Lances.

Shadeur Sanders, Quinn Ewers and Cam Ward had seasons equal to Maye this year, and all three were better than Daniels was as a junior. None of the three would be considered a flash in the pan.

Quote from: TONKA56 on April 25, 2024, 09:01:19 PMSo you're planning on a high draft pick in 2025?

Yes

Quote from: katkavage on April 25, 2024, 09:01:14 PMThey will be right there drafting high up again next year.

Possibly but at least that quarterback will have what he needs to succeed if they can find a guard and running back in this draft.

Quote from: katkavage on April 25, 2024, 08:53:57 PMSee you here next year. Same situation. Looking for a QB.

If you're going to take a quarterback early you risk ruining him if you don't have supporting talent around him. They need to come out of this draft with a quality guard and running back and then go all in on a quarterback next year.

Poles was a finalist for the job that Schoen got. Gotta admit that he's made some really astute moves to start his GM career. He has essentially turned Bryce Young into Caleb Williams, DJ Moore and Darnell Wright. He got the better quarterback and two good NFL starters.

Pretty surprising IMHO. I would have thought that wide receiver would have the lowest miss rate and quarterback the highest. Instead receiver has the highest miss rate while quarterback is in the middle of the pack.

https://x.com/adamschefter/status/1783084094001172969?s=61&t=8pY1fIic9mTDjk4JVJPt9w

Quote from: spiderblue43 on April 23, 2024, 07:16:39 PMWow..that Aces marriage busted quickly.  He probably wants to unretire..or maybe play..or whatever.

My thoughts were that he was contemplating retirement to save his marriage but now that it is over perhaps retirement has lost its appeal.

According to ESPN Waller is divorcing Kelsey Plum, his wife of one year. Normally I don't care about players personal lives but this could directly impact if he plays this year or not.

https://www.espn.com/wnba/story/_/id/40009974/wnba-star-kelsey-plum-giants-darren-waller-file-divorce

Quote from: Jclayton92 on April 22, 2024, 08:01:49 PM4 teams offered saquan, we didn't even offer him a deal so not sure you can tamper with something we didn't want anyways.

The harm wasn't to us but the other three teams that were bidding for his services, but missed out because the Eagles broke the rules. The league simply can't function if teams willfully break the rules for competitive advantage.

Quote from: Philosophers on April 23, 2024, 11:29:19 AMHow much time does Schoen thinks he has left in his Giants tenure?  If less he may swing for the fences this year and gamble on a QB.

IMHO both Schoen and Daboll are going to get at least four years, especially after they squeezed a playoff appearance out of a relatively untalented team. Mara is on record as saying that we can't continue to keep cycling through head coaches every three years. I suppose Daboll could be gone at the end of the year if he becomes more dictatorial and erratic than this past year but I think Schoen is safe.

Quote from: MightyGiants on April 23, 2024, 09:01:56 AMI have listened to all the rumors and all the insiders.  This is the best I can discern when it comes to the Giants desires for round one.


1)  The Giants would like to draft a quarterback but on their terms.  In other words, for the right price, the Giants would move up to take a QB, or they would take one if he falls to six.

2)  Maye seems to be the quarterback the Giants have the most interest in.  JJ is another QB the Giants may have interest in, but it doesn't sound like he would be a trade-up target

3)  Failing to secure a QB, the Giants will sit at 6 and take the best WR on their board.  I have no idea how the Giants have stacked the 3 WRs prospects

At the end of the regular season I wanted them to draft a quarterback. At that point in time not many were predicting as many as four quarterbacks to go in the first five picks and we would likely have the chance to draft Daniels or McCarthy at six. Now I hope they don't. Don't get me wrong we desperately need an upgrade but with the current supporting cast I don't think it's wise to package a bunch of picks to move up and get the guy we want. We still have too many holes on offense and would likely be setting that guy up for failure.

At this point I'd be more interested in dropping from six to the 9-13 range. That would give us the chance to draft a guy like Thomas out of LSU and give us another first round pick to move up in next years draft to get Jones replacement. I know some will say that next years qb class will be weak, and to some degree it will, but there will be at least two or three qb prospects with a high first round grade. Very few people had Jayden Daniel's blowing up and going as high as second or third overall at this point last year. Every year someone blows up. There are several college quarterbacks this year that had really nice seasons who could develop into that can't miss guy. Sanders, Ewers and Cam Ward come to mind. We're stuck with Jones for this year. Finish rebuilding the line and the skill position players and then go big for a qb next year.

Quote from: Jclayton92 on April 20, 2024, 06:49:05 PMHearing the Broncos are offering teams #12 overall, Patrick Surtain, and a 2025 1st to move up in the draft and I'd be all over that as you'd have bookend corners and edge rushers moving forward.

They need a quarterback and if they're moving up they want the guy that they want. The million dollar question will be is the guy they covet going to be available at 6. That IMHO is doubtful. I'd take that deal so fast Payton's head would spin.

If the patriots are dumb enough to trade the 3rd pick overall for the 6th pick and an injury prone underachieving quarterback with a bad quarterback it'll be the most lopsided trade in league history. Sadly I don't think that Pats would be willing to rescue us from our own stupidity.