Big Blue Huddle

Quote from: Jclayton92 on January 20, 2023, 01:04:34 PMI'm genuinely surprised that no one has made a thread on the similarities to this season and the 2007 season yet so I'll do it without creating a new thread.

*First off Both super bowls are in Arizona.

*Both Qbs on their 4th year that had serious doubt going into the season and turned it around.

*Beat a divisional winner in the wild card that the media wasn't sold on(Bucs/Vikes).

*Beat the #1 seed Divison rival on the road (Cowboys/potentially Eagles)

*NFC championship on the road hostile blue blood match up (Green bay/49ers)

*Super bowl is on Fox like it was in 2007 and we would be heavy underdogs against a KC/Buf/Cincy.

*Giants won the 1st the London game in 2007, and won this season in London.

If, against all odds they get there, I hope Coach Dabs has the In-N-Out truck out for lunch, one day.  Yes, I'm a littlestitious.

Quote from: MightyGiants on January 20, 2023, 09:19:26 AMI really wonder what would have happened if Joe Judge hadn't been fired at the end of last season.   I think that was a real possibility.  If Joe hadn't done that 15-minute meltdown rant and perhaps not run those QB sneaks, he could have returned for another season.   Would Jones have flourished under Kitchens or whoever Judge brought in as the new OC?   

I suspect things would have gone in a very different direction with Jones out (and looking for a chance to compete with another team) and the Giants being a top 5 drafting team looking at this year's crop of draftable QBs.  Not sure if the Giants would have been able to hire Schoen if he was saddled with Judge as his HC.

I also wonder what would have happened if Mara had recognized how badly he screwed up with Gettleman 2 years earlier and brought in Schoen, who brought in Daboll, in DJ's second year.  I'm guessing that by this year DJ would be an MVP candidate. And with a solid roster, the Giants would have been the #1 seed.

Quote from: Jclayton92 on January 19, 2023, 03:37:13 PMState_property created a thread that was referring to Jones improving year on year and that's what TrueBlue was referring to when he said it should be in the Jones thread.

Thanks for clearing that up.  Obviously I was confused.  I've apologized to TrueBlue both publicly and privately.  And expressed my admiration for certain posts he's made. 

Quote from: TrueBlueFan on January 19, 2023, 03:08:19 PMWhat you quoted, was in a topic that was not created by you, and was in response to the topic creator

See post #998, that was the original message of another topic, and what you quoted was a post in that topic before it rightfully got moved here.

So honestly, no, I did not see your video, nor have I opened the Flotsam topic you speak of, so honestly I have no clue what you are on about in this post. But my post was not directed at you, so I was not "policing" your post(s).

It's certainly possible I had a brain fart.  I was sure I had posted the QB School video in the Flotsam thread.  Perhaps I got confused as to which post "This" referred to since there was no indication.  So I'll apologize since I was probably at fault.

Quote from: TrueBlueFan on January 18, 2023, 12:40:44 PMThis should be in the DJ thread

I'm the one who posted it so maybe I should explain myself.  I posted it in the More Flotsam and Jetsam thread, a thread I created to post to links of videos and articles that some members might not have seen.  To date I'm the only one that has posted in the 2 F & J threads, so there was almost no chance that it would devolve into the kind of back and forth that caused this DJ catch-all thread to be necessary.

But more to the point, if you watched the video (I don't know if you did or not) it not only shows JT breaking down some DJ plays it shows JT highlighting the deficiencies of the Vikings secondary.  There's been lots of talk about the Vikings poor pass defense, but this video gives specific examples of those deficiencies and how the Giants' play calling exploited them.  So in that sense the DJ content was not nearly the whole story.  I don't know how much DJ content has to be in a video to consign it to this thread.

Obviously I posted it where I though it should go, and equally obviously the mods disagreed and moved it (I hope they actually watched it before moving it).  I'm disappointed that they moved it but I accept that.  But I also think the mods are capable of moderating the board without help from thread police.

Quote from: sxdxca38 on January 18, 2023, 11:15:19 PMSadly, not only is it Nick Wright, but also Colin Cowherd has just come out and said DJ is only a C QB at best.

The opinions of 2 guys who never had any football role at any level and are simply in search of clicks and eyeballs doesn't make me sad, it amuses me.  When it comes to football analysis and knowledge, both those guys are D-.

QB School on DJ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCrnYPrdq4w

R-E-S-P-E-C-T

https://www.espn.com/blog/new-york-giants/post/_/id/64208/respect-for-giants-qb-daniel-jones-is-going-up-around-the-nfl

Quote from: MightyGiants on January 17, 2023, 09:04:09 AM

But where's my flying car?

Quote from: MightyGiants on January 13, 2023, 08:40:41 AMInteresting article about how the NFL people seem to think Jones' price tag just keeps rising


https://www.bigblueview.com/2023/1/13/23552633/ny-giants-daniel-jones-price-tag-continues-to-skyrocket-free-agency-rumors


Most are saying Jones' annual price will be in the $32 million to $36 million range (up from the low 20s a month ago)

They may end up needing to franchise him in order to keep him, if that's what they want to do.  I doubt his agent will go for the modest 2 year deal some have bandied about, when there is every likelihood that someone is going to be willing to go 35-40 million for 4 years.

DJ not satisfied by making the playoffs.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35427945/qb-jones-adamant-giants-not-satisfied-making-playoffs

Orlovsky ranks the play-off QBs.  I think his rank of DJ will surprise some folks and, I expect will be controversial.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35413498/ranking-nfl-playoff-quarterbacks-2023-dan-orlovsky-stacks-strengths-weaknesses-all-14

As a tease, this is what he said about Jones:

QuoteJones attacks the middle of the field really well, showing some high-end ball placement. His 75.9% completion rate on throws between the hashes ranks second in the NFL. And he has become a rushing asset for the Giants' offense, picking up just shy of 600 yards with his feet in 2022.

I do wonder if his "good" is good enough, though. Can Jones carry the Giants to a string of playoff wins? The supporting cast doesn't have the same talent as other NFC contenders, so Jones will have to take over at times.

You'll have to click through to see where he is ranked and who is above and below him.