Big Blue Huddle

QB School on DJ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCrnYPrdq4w

R-E-S-P-E-C-T

https://www.espn.com/blog/new-york-giants/post/_/id/64208/respect-for-giants-qb-daniel-jones-is-going-up-around-the-nfl

Quote from: MightyGiants on January 17, 2023, 09:04:09 AM

But where's my flying car?

Quote from: MightyGiants on January 13, 2023, 08:40:41 AMInteresting article about how the NFL people seem to think Jones' price tag just keeps rising


https://www.bigblueview.com/2023/1/13/23552633/ny-giants-daniel-jones-price-tag-continues-to-skyrocket-free-agency-rumors


Most are saying Jones' annual price will be in the $32 million to $36 million range (up from the low 20s a month ago)

They may end up needing to franchise him in order to keep him, if that's what they want to do.  I doubt his agent will go for the modest 2 year deal some have bandied about, when there is every likelihood that someone is going to be willing to go 35-40 million for 4 years.

DJ not satisfied by making the playoffs.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35427945/qb-jones-adamant-giants-not-satisfied-making-playoffs

Orlovsky ranks the play-off QBs.  I think his rank of DJ will surprise some folks and, I expect will be controversial.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35413498/ranking-nfl-playoff-quarterbacks-2023-dan-orlovsky-stacks-strengths-weaknesses-all-14

As a tease, this is what he said about Jones:

QuoteJones attacks the middle of the field really well, showing some high-end ball placement. His 75.9% completion rate on throws between the hashes ranks second in the NFL. And he has become a rushing asset for the Giants' offense, picking up just shy of 600 yards with his feet in 2022.

I do wonder if his "good" is good enough, though. Can Jones carry the Giants to a string of playoff wins? The supporting cast doesn't have the same talent as other NFC contenders, so Jones will have to take over at times.

You'll have to click through to see where he is ranked and who is above and below him.

Quote from: TrueBlueFan on January 11, 2023, 11:36:47 AMElite, or even very good QBs, make their players better. If you need players to kake you better, than you are not that, you are average at best.

If DJ plays more games like his last few, perhaps the view on him can change a bit. But I currently still don't view him as a long term, $35m+ guy

He took 2 guys who we had barely heard of and they turned into legitimate depth receivers who were forced into starting roles and performed well, both with career bests in catches and yards.  And revived a moribund guy's career from 5th or lower on the initial depth chart to a point where we have to be concerned about him going FA.

Did they elevate DJ or did he elevate them?  Personally I find the answer to this to be easier than the chicken/egg conundrum.

I don't know who this guy is or his credentials, but he makes videos about all teams across the league, so is presumably fairly objective.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Iay74Oxq6U

Quote from: kingm56 on January 05, 2023, 09:39:09 PM@AZGiantFan, it might be similar to the tiers I specified on page 55; interesting enough, tier 3 is exactly where I have Jones.  My top two tiers are limited to just 8 QBs...

It is nothing like your tiers.  In his tiers the top 2 tiers have 3 QBs combined.  Which was my point, his tier 3 contains the 4-6th ranked QBs whereas your tier 3 contains the 9-19 ranked QBs.  So the respective tiering is not even close

I'm not saying one is better than another, just clarifying the vastly different meanings that "tier 3" has in these 2 instances.  For me, his has DJ ranked too high, while yours has him ranked too low.

Quote from: MightyGiants on January 05, 2023, 08:00:24 PMJan 5, 2023
Max Kellerman puts Daniel Jones in Tier 3️⃣ of NFL QBs 🤨 | KJM
Max Kellerman explains why he has been impressed with New York Giants QB Daniel Jones.
#ESPN #NFL

That would seem a little low if someone was unaware that Max's top 3 tiers are his top 6 QBS.  Onr in tier 1, 2 in tier 2, and 3 in tier 3.

Quote from: Alamo on January 03, 2023, 05:47:59 PMAlamo...Tom

I find it easier to remember the Alamo, Tom.