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Sam was a good man, the world is lessened by his passing.

I liked Sam, I always wondered why he left.  I guess now we know why.  My prayers go out to him and his family.

Quote from: TDToomer on January 12, 2017, 06:36:49 PM
He's not on that list either.

He is not on the list because he is an unrestricted free agent so he is listed among the UFAs.

Who is the Wade you are referring to?

Quote from: TDToomer on January 11, 2017, 12:12:22 PM
Wade is missing.

If you're referring to Trevin Wade he is an UFA

Pretty much every offseason discussion involving the roster, free agency, salary cap and the draft should start with the Giants actual 2017 roster.  Yet, I am never able to find a depth chart or roster that reflects the real current Giants roster.  So I have created one for our group that shows the current Giants roster prior to free agency and the draft.  I have included exclusive rights and restricted free agents in the depth chart even though they technically are not on the roster because the Giants can acquire all the exclusive rights guys cheap and the two restricted rights I am thinking will be tendered.  I did make a notation of those players though so that it's easier to spot them.


Pos   No.   Player 1   No   Player 2   No   Player 3   No   Player 4   No   Player 5

OFFENSE

LWR   13   Beckham Jr., Odell 14/1   82   Lewis, Roger CF16   86   Powe, Darius Fut/WR  Jalen Williams               
RWR     15   Brandon Marshall   17   Harris, Dwayne U/Dal    83   Norwood, Kevin Fut/WR   Rob Wheelwright            
WR   87   Shepard, Sterling 16/2   12     King, Tavarres SF15   Travis Rudolph  Keeon Johnson            
LT   74   Flowers, Ereck 15/1      Michael Bowie   Chad Wheeler            
LG   67   Pugh, Justin 13/1   69   60  Gettis, Adam   Jessamen Dunker    Sam Ekwonike            
C   70   Richburg, Weston 14/2   69   Jones, Brett SF15    C Khaled Holmes                  
RG    77      John Jerry         75   Halapio, Jon Fut/OG      Martin Wallace    Armando Bonheur           
RT   76   DJ Fluker     68   Hart, Bobby 15/7  66   Adam Bisnowaty            
TE     85     Rhett Ellison    88  Evan Engram   45   Tye, Will CF15  89   Adams, Jerell 16/6   81   LaCosse, Matt   Colin Thompson      
QB   10   Manning, Eli T/SD  8   QB Josh Johnson     3   Geno Smith  5  Davis Webb   
FB    Shane Smith                     
RB   28   Perkins, Paul 16/5  44  Wayne Gallman   26   Darkwa, Orleans P/Mia   Shaun Draughn     48   Huesman, Jacob Fut/RB      34   Vereen, Shane   Daryl Virgies


DEFENSE

LDE   90    JPP   72   Wynn, Kerry CF14   78   Okwara, Romeo CF16    71   Maponga, Stansly Fut/DE            
LDT   98   Harrison, Damon SF16   96   Bromley, Jay 14/3   Jarron Jones            
RDT    94  Dalvin Tomlinson   99   Thomas, Robert W/Car   79   Williams, Jordan Fut/DT   Josh Banks               
RDE   54   Vernon, Olivier U/Mia   58   Odighizuwa, Owamagbe 15/3    91   Avery Moss   Evan Schwan      
SLB   59   Kennard, Devon 14/5      61   Williams, Ishaq CF16  44   Mark Herzlich    Curtis Grant            
MLB   93   Goodson, BJ 16/4   57  Keenan Robinson   55   Thomas, JT    Calvin Munson            
WLB   52   Casillas, Jonathan U/NE   44   Skinner, Deontae SF16            
LCB   41   Rodgers-Cromartie, Dominique U/Den   24   Apple, Eli 16/1      Valentino Blake          
SS   21   Collins, Landon 15/2   29   Berhe, Nat 14/5      FUT   36   Murphy, Ryan Fut/FS              
FS   27   Thompson, Darian   33   Adams, Andrew CF16   37   Pinkins, Eric SF16   22   Thompson, Mykkele    Rahim Moore   Jadar Johnson   
RCB   20   Jenkins, Janoris U/LA    39   Hunter, Michael Fut/CB   38   Deayon, Donte Fut/CB  Nigel Tribune

      
SPECIAL TEAMS

P   9   Wing, Brad T/Pit                        
PK     Aldrick Rosas                         
LS   51   Zak DeOssie                     
H   9   Wing, Brad T/Pit                        
PR   17   Harris, Dwayne U/Dal       13   Beckham Jr., Odell 14/1   87   Shepard, Sterling 16/2      
KR   17   Harris, Dwayne U/Dal        87   Shepard, Sterling 16/2   


restricted free agent- *player* Wynn was tendered with the lowest offer ($1.7 million).  If a team makes him an offer the Giants don't match they get nothing

In case you are wondering who is missing:

Giants Unrestricted Free Agents

QB Ryan Nassib
QB Josh Johnson
RB Bobby Rainey
TE Larry Donnell
OT Will Beatty
OT/OG Marshall Newhouse
OG John Jerry
DE Jason Pierre-Paul
DT Johnathan Hankins
LB Keenan Robinson
LB Kelvin Sheppard
LB Mark Herzlich
CB/S Leon Hall
CB Trevin Wade
CB Coty Sensabaugh
PK Robbie Gould
LS Zak DeOssie

Players the team may cut (with their cap savings)

Victor Cruz-  $7,500,000
Shane Vereen-  $3,750,000
JT Thomas- $3,000,000
Rashad Jennings- $2,500,000
Dwayne Harris-    $1,400,000  (would have a big $2,400,000 cap hit if cut)


The depth chart I used as the base for updating and editting
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http://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/depthchart/NYG

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Quote from: nyluv516 on August 30, 2016, 08:39:19 AM
Florida - nyluv516 - December 14th (Elaine) (Originally from NY)

Welcome Elaine, you were on the Bleed Blue Podcast with Ed and Brian if I am not mistaken

Last week I addressed the first half of the rules and wording changes for the 2016 NFL season. The following addresses the second half of such changes:

1. In the past, the amount of time that could run off the clock during a field goal attempt often depended on the quickness of the game timer and his understanding of exactly when the play ends. As such there were instances where upwards of 7-8 or more seconds would be taken off the clock in such situations. To address this situation and ensure consistency throughout the league on such plays, the wording in the Rule Book has been revised to include the following: "For a successful field goal, or for an unsuccessful attempt that does not land in the field of play, the maximum amount of time that can run off the game clock is five seconds."

2. A rule change that was discussed extensively when it was first announced is the relocation of the starting point for the offensive team following a touchback on a free kick. The rule change was made to ostensibly reduce the number of kickoffs run back and thus increase player safety. Although there is much speculation regarding whether the change will actually work as intended (although it has done so in the NCAA), the rules were changed as follows: "After a touchback, the team that has been awarded a touchback next snaps the ball at its 20-yard line from any point on or between the inbound lines, unless the touchback results from a free kick, in which case the ball shall be placed at the team

Al, our resident officiating expert goes over more of the rule changes for the 2016 season:

Each year the NFL rulesmakers tweak the rules in most part to address situations that arose during the season and, at least lately, to improve player safety. The changes often take two forms: a) new or revised rules and b) changes to the wording contained in the rule book intended to clarify existing rules. [A further mechanism are the Points of Emphasis that that are issued to the officials and shared with the team to highlight situations that require further attention from the officials. One such situation last year was the setting of picks by offensive receivers that should be (and were) called as Offensive Pass Interference.]  Given the number of such changes this year, I will address them in two separate postings.   

Specifically, the rules changes are as follows:

4-5-1 and 4-6-5 - Makes it a foul for delay of game when a team timeout is erroneously granted.

5-3-3 Permits the offensive and defensive play callers to use coach-to player communication system regardless of whether they are on the field or in the coaches

Al,

I want to publicly thank you for sharing these outstanding insights.   Have you heard anything about where they would put an extra official?

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BBH's own former college official (his name is Al by the way) does an in-depth look at the NFL rule changes this season.  Al also has connections with NFL officials which allows him more insights.  We are going to try something different this season.  We are going to leave the thread unlocked for people to ask questions.  Now I know refs are not popular with many fans.  We at BBH as you keep the questions and comments respectful.   

A LOOK AT THE NFL OFFICIATING CHANGES

by BayAreaGiants (Al)


It is almost time to play football again and time to take a look at some of the changes that have (or haven't) been made related to NFL officiating during the off season.

NFL Front Office Changes

Despite the assumptions of some and the claims of many, the discipline (i.e., fines and suspensions) that is handed down weekly to NFL players is not the work of Roger Goodell but a committee within the NFL office previously headed by Merton Hanks, the ex-49er and reporting to Troy Vincent, Executive Vice President of Football Operations. Both Hanks and Vincent, as well as the other members of the committee are ex-players.

Hanks left his position with the NFL during the offseason and the league has announced that Jon Runyan has been appointed to a newly created position of vice president of policy and rules administration. Among his duties, Runyan will serve as the executive in charge of on-field discipline

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Quote from: nick127 on May 27, 2016, 09:58:15 PM
Do defensive coordinators have an equivalent of the offensive coordinator's call sheet, or is calling a defensive game more reactive?

Would love to learn some of the basic ideas that go into devising a defensive game plan.

Welcome Nick, yes DCs have a similar sheets for the defense.   Of course they give the MLB (who usually runs the defense) options based on what the offense does.

Happy birthday everyone

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