Big Blue Huddle

Quote from: Bob In PA on September 30, 2015, 10:31:12 AM
Excellent post.  Did you draw the cartoon?  If not, your skills at searching the Internet are clearly second to none.  Bob

Bob,

I saw this cartoon years ago and it really hit home for me.   So every once in awhile I search for it, so I can share it. 

I often see people get caught up in a heated debate about a topic.   From my many years of internet discussion boards I have learned a few things:

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3) Agree to disagree can be better than the last word.  After all this is a community is being right more important than the friendships and the bonds?   I can say in the heat of the moment being right seemed more important and that usually leads to regret.

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Here are some video highlights of the ultimate Giant

https://screen.yahoo.com/charley-casserly-remembers-hall-famer-204722539.html

RIP Frank

Well welcome, it will be great to hear your insights as a guy with a lot of first hand experience.   

Another interesting thing about safety prospects.   One thing Greg Cossell mentioned this morning is that some teams prefer interchangeable safeties (as it makes it harder to guess a defense) and some prefer the traditional free safety and strong safety.   My memory is a little bit fuzzy on this issue, but I sort of recall Spags using the left and right safety approach last time he was here.

Quote from: UKGiantsFan on April 23, 2015, 07:44:06 AM

Quote from: MightyGiants on April 23, 2015, 07:28:34 AM
Greg Cossell was raving about Damarious Randall this morning.   He also did not like Landon Collins one bit.  Said he was too heavy and heavy footed.

Check out the video's at Draft Breakdown and see what conclusions you draw.

I had a couple of ASU games taped DB don't have up but if you want to see why I have tempered my enthusiasm on Randall take a look at the Oregon State game on there. Some of his run fits in that game are horrendous!

I will do that when I get a chance Ceri.   One thing I was reminded of in Greg's class.  He said if he had to choose (a safety prospect) between one that couldn't tackle and one that couldn't cover he would go for the one that couldn't tackle.   Greg figures players can always learn how to tackle but they can't always learn how to cover.

Greg Cossell was raving about Damarious Randall this morning.   He also did not like Landon Collins one bit.  Said he was too heavy and heavy footed.

I was taught safeties should be between 5' 11"- 6' 2" and 195 - 220 and run at least a 4.55

Quote from: UKGiantsFan on April 21, 2015, 08:15:44 AM

Quote from: DesG89 on April 21, 2015, 06:50:39 AM
Good read as always Ceri. Just like cam Erving in the guard review we're on the same wavelength regarding Preston Smith. He's on my wish list but I have this nagging feeling he'll be taken late in the 1st considering the lack of tradition 4-3 DEs in the draft this year. Is it safe to assume from their absences that you don't think much of Za'darius Smith and Anthony Chikillo?

I also think Smith will be gone. It's one very big reason why I favour going DE first. DE's aren't going to last long as their aren't many of them. Their will be good OL's still available at #40.

As far as Za'darius Smith and Chickillo go, I'm not of the opinion that either will be a starter or that they'll upgrade our pass rush. We have depth, what we're missing is a second two-way player or a speedy outside pass rush specialist.

I count over 40 guys being projected as first round or possible first round picks.  I am thinking some of these guys will fall to round two.   I am thinking either Smith or OO or both will be their at 40. 

Quote from: Philosophers on April 20, 2015, 10:47:25 AM
We are completely in sync on Preston Smith as I have said the past month or so how much I think he's Justin Tuck 2.0.  I think he is the absolute prototype for the Giants.

I will be very very very happy if the Giants go O-line round one and come back in round two with either Preston Smith or OO.   That would be such a great 1-2 punch for this team

Great report Ceri!   Of course you know I was going to say something about Owagume Odighizuwa.   I think you are putting him in the wrong category.   He's too short to really be 3-4 DE.   He would be an ideal LDE in a 4-3 though.   I want him and if the team gets him I know we would all be happy.  He would improve the run defense and give the generally less athletic RTs fits.

Quote from: dasher on April 19, 2015, 02:30:40 PM
Here's my fearsome pick for round 5
Sean Hickey OT projected to OG
Why?
2 reasons - We LOVE Syracuse and team captains.

Wouldn't shock me Dale

Good work Ceri!     None of these guys really excite me as a pick at 9.  If one were to slip to the second round of the questionable fit list, they might be worth a pick.   The small school prospects are intriguing and one of them would be a nice day 3 pick.