Big Blue Huddle

Quote from: jerseyguy on March 17, 2017, 04:26:18 PM
I know the talent is not what we would like to see in round 1 but we cannot forget the need on the O line at OT, if we don't fix the poor blocking we are set to play at the same level as last season, disastrous..

I think I am with you if either of the top 2 OTs is there at 23.  If not, BPA without excluding any positions.

Quote from: MightyGiants on March 15, 2017, 12:17:49 PM
I think this part explains the Giants reluctance to move Flowers and why Flowers would be a bad fit at Guard

That quote would support a point you have made in the past, to wit, the reduction in practice time under the CBA has played a role in overall oline play declining across the league.

The value of draft picks increased significantly with the addition of the rookie cap.  Parcell's comment made sense then, but not so much now. 

Quote from: Painter on March 13, 2017, 07:24:30 PM
I would say yes if my team was anything close to what the Patriots have been and apparently still are which is a top tier contender. But it could be risky to draw broad conclusions based on what the Pats have done in that regard as there are many more reasons why they are a dynasty if not the GOAT.

I agree with Ed that the player's age and costs would be factors while the perhaps greater certainty with a proven starter would be an incentive for a team which see itself with a "win-now" opportunity. For most teams, the question is are you rebuilding, reloading, or relying?   

Cheers!

It also depends on available CAP space.  That starter is going to hit your CAP a lot harder than a second, or even first, round pick.

Does the acquisition of Marshall lean us a little more on the blocking side for a TE?

The mantra used to be that you never have too many pass rushers.  As the league evolves, and as the spread, well, spreads, and we see more and more 4 and 5 receiver sets, maybe the new mantra should be you never have too many pass coverage guys.

Quote from: nflscouting on May 04, 2016, 07:16:34 AM
The same held true for Jackson III - both he & Hargreaves seemed to be "allergic" when it came to run support. That is one thing that Giants fans will see in Apple - he has no fear coming up to give chase in run force. I know the team is looking for a slot corner, but at the least, he can fill that role to start. Often at OSU, it was him & Bell playing safety when they went 5 DBs

What do you think of the notion of having Apple being the 3rd corner but moving him outside and sliding DRC into the slot on the nickel package?

Quote from: todge on April 12, 2016, 05:54:06 PM
Dave - several of your colleagues Brugler and Nawrocki have some concerns about Lee's body build and overall strength.  Nolan specifically said that he looks "maxed out" ... "looks small and plays small".  The Scout that Nawrocki employs states he is a "safety" and his value lies in the 2nd Round. Brugler stated that he gets easily engulfed by blocking linemen in running plays.  What is your reply to those reports?

The Giants were one of the worst teams last year defending the run. So why would they bring in a guy who may be an excellent pass protector but gets washed out of running plays far too often?  Although many here have disagreed with me - the Giants have typically wanted their LBs to be run stoppers first and foremost.  So if they took Lee, that would represent a change in philosophy.  Wouldn't he be a better fit for a team who want their LBs to be speedy cover types first?

Perhaps the signing of Snacks indicates that they are changing their philosophy.

Here is an example if just how great this board is.  Look at this request for information and the response.  And more importantly look at the time lag between the question and the answer:

QuoteQuote from: MightyGiants on Today at 03:24:40 PM

QuoteQuote from: CAGiantFan on Today at 03:23:39 PM
Wow, I am way behind the curve on this.  What was his injury?

He has been out for a little over a week with a hamstring injury.

That was one second over MightyGiants usual response time.  LOL

What brought us all here was a love of football in general and the NY Giants in particular.  In that context it is hard enough to keep everyone on a civil, intelligent plane.  As we have seen, political strife will inevitably result when current event or historical events are discussed.  That damages relationships that are sometimes strained as it is, when we limit ourselves to football.  There are already some people I will look at a little differently, not because of the content of their opinion but because of the way it is expressed.

There are many many places on the internet where non-football discussions occur.  It isn't as if there is a shortage of places where people can spout off about their political beliefs.  Why duplicate that here?  Or at least if we are going to duplicate it, why do so in the midst of the board devoted to the stated purpose of this place?  Having a long thread, even one with some positive aspects, doesn't make it a good thread.  Gresham's law says that bad money drives out good money.  Bad posting drives out good posting.  Quality of posts and threads is more important than quantity.

IMO the experiment has been a failure and should be terminated ASAP before serious damage is done.

Quote from: BlueMoshik on June 02, 2012, 09:07:45 AM

Quote from: CAGiantFan on June 02, 2012, 12:38:57 AM
If anyone can be said to have been the author of the Constitution it would be James Madison, with its philosophical father being the English philosopher Edmund Burke.

That's right about Madison. But I believe you are thinking of John Locke, not Edmund Burke.

You are right - I got them confused.  Thanks for the correction.

Quote from: gregf on June 01, 2012, 05:56:40 PM
I worked with my son on a Adams report. He wrote the Massachussettes constitution which became a template for our current one 236 years later(even though Jefferson gets most of the credit).

Jefferson had nothing to do with the writing of the Constitution.  He wasn't even in the country at the time of the Constitutional Convention - he was ambassador to France at the time and was in Paris.  And when he got back he wasn't very happy with it.  You are confusing the Constitution with the Declaration of Independence.  If anyone can be said to have been the author of the Constitution it would be James Madison, with its philosophical father being the English philosopher Edmund Burke.

I have hardly ever agreed with Alan Dershowitz about anything.  But if even he says that there is no chance that they can convict Zimmerman I have to go with that.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/dershowitz-no-jury-would-convict-zimmerman-of-murder-unless-afraid-new-black-panthers-might-kill-them/

IMO Washington was the greatest American, but Lincoln was the greatest President.

In my lifetime I'd put Reagan at #1 with Ike a very close #2.

Quote from: Painter on May 29, 2012, 07:05:55 AM
Nothing dumb about it, CAGiantFAN. The X breaks inside while W stays vertical which suggests who passes the crossing point first. And you would want it that way. The Z and W are running clear out routes. X clearly is the "read", so we might expect the W to lead, force the Safety back and so clear the deep middle for the X.

Cheers!

Thanks.