Big Blue Huddle

If there's one area of the team I'll give the Giants the benefit of the doubt? D-line.

Quote from: Vette on May 01, 2017, 10:24:18 AM
Yeah, Bob does that to me all the time. 

(kidding, Bob)

That Bob!

I stopped drafting long posts because I felt people either didn't read'em, skimmed'em or took one line entirely out of context.

I didn't get a chance to listen to the full show but what I heard was outstanding!

For a TE? No.

For a higher impact position (in a better year with better premium position players) such a QB, LT or elite DE/CB? Probably yes.

Love it!

Reaching for need is not the best approach.

Quote from: MightyGiants on March 16, 2017, 07:09:42 AM
I am not seeing Hankins replacement falling to the Giants at 23.  In fact I have yet to see a DT that is at all exciting.

D lineman could be a DE as well in preparation of JPP being gone if a long term contract is unobtainable. I'm not saying I agree with the idea.

Keep in mind that this is the same organization that drafted Wilson/Randle when they had no olinemen left after the sb46 run.

I think the Giants go D-Lineman in the first round. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised to see them grab two d-linemen in the first three rounds.

Quote from: MightyGiants on March 11, 2017, 10:28:17 AM
Guys,

I can understand and appreciate the assertion that McCaffrey would be a better player.  However, I subscribe to the school of thought that you need to build your line before you add skill players (with the exception of franchise QB).   The team can realistically get a starting caliber RG in round 2 and maybe three, they are not going to find any starting caliber OTs after they pick at 23.   

Drafting McCaffrey would be too similar to drafting David Wilson to run behind a poor line.  Zeke looked like such a great pick for the Cowboys because they had a great line to block for him.

Wait...you mean picking David Wilson no o-line in front of him was a bad idea?

Yeah, watching Cam Robinson was eerily familiar to watching ole Ereck..

Isn't there a mix of former coaches/analysts? I imagine most would have at least some experience through college football programs and/or NFL level experience.

Payton if he can get out of his contract or McDaniels.

I don't think Coughlin is the problem. While I'm not in love with the crowd that thinks Coughlin should coach until he wants to retire crowd, I still think him and the coaching staff are doing okay with the roster give to them.

It basically boils down to who replaces him? I think the Giants are a year late to the replacement carousel. Will probably need to chase a coordinator.

Quote from: MightyGiants on December 22, 2015, 08:00:48 AM
Until last year I would have given Spags a pass as he had little to work with.  However I look at what happened to the Cowboys last year.  Prior to the start of the season it was thought the Cowboys would have the worst defense in the league due to a glaring lack of talent.  Monte Kiffin comes in and makes a respectable defense with what he had (he really didn't have a true pass rusher for instance).   Guys playing for him tended to have banner or career years.  In my mind that's what marks a great DC.   

Spags on the other hand hasn't managed to coax any of the defensive players to have a career year.  Not DRC, not Prince, not Kennard, certainly not Moore and so on.  So I would say Spags is at best an average DC for what it's worth.   Historically Spags seems to have had more failures than successes both as a DC and as a head coach so if Coughlin does go I don't see a need to keep Spags.

Didn't hurt that he had Strahan, Osi and Tuck at his disposal! Talent can hide a lot of deficiencies much like OBJ is doing with the offense.