Big Blue Huddle

I love this everytime I see it, thank you for the morning laugh lol

Timeless meltdown by TO.

Should others start sending PMs about the constant criticism of the OL, WRs, Coaching, and Defense? It is all hearsay, shouldn't be OK to criticize all but one player, if it truly is a team sport, he should be just as subjected to it as other players, coaches, decision makers and positional groups. One can just as easily argue that the OL and WR criticisms are just as constant or "severe", if not moreso

@JT39 contrary to his post above was also highly active in this weeks game thread going back and forth with others with criticism about how Waller and the OL are no good, page 4 of his post history is all dolphins game thread. and there were more posts than that from him too. So I am unsure how he can claim wanting to avoid it, and contributing to what he calls a "wreck"

Quote from: MightyGiants on October 10, 2023, 09:15:00 AMI don't think the lines in Buffalo lived up to the talent they had.  When Beane took over, he put a lot of resources both in free agency and the draft into the O-line.  The line was maybe average at best, but it really didn't seem that great.

Wouldn't that then raise a red flag that coaching is the issue there?

If two teams with the same OL coach soent a ton of resources and it hasn't lived up, can that really be the talent?

Giants OL has been bad, but if it was similar there, Johnson would be the constant there

Quote from: Trench on October 09, 2023, 11:09:38 PMGood point. My opinion and I could be wrong is some people here have a pretty thin skin and yearn to be proven right. I enjoy posts where people admit they were incorrect on a topic and subsequently own it. Those are the posters I tend to read more of for some reason. I believe there is a balance we can strike. But all this could simply be a result of a passionate fan base who invest a lot of time. Either way is ok as long as we remain courteous. Problem is sometimes a post is read in a different way than it was intended at the time it was written.

Well said, I agree

They don't need Tua

They need elite weapons, a good OL, and high level coaching to prop him or any other QB up for success. Mike White can succeed in MIA if Tua went down because of the support being so good all around. The QB is interchangeable if everything around the position is of a top tier level or close to it.

I didn't even mention the run game yet.

Tua needs Miami, not the other way around

How were Bobby Johnsons lines in Buffalo? I never paid their OL much attention but that could potentially gain some insight there.

I don't think a mid season firing is beneficial but in the offseason with time to work and have time to adjust? Absolutely

Quote from: Rambo89 on October 09, 2023, 08:00:59 PMJohn Mara would sell the franchise before he let Schoen or anyone draft a QB to replace Daniel Jones

Mara gone and a much needed upgrade? Sign me up lol

Not good and bad are two different things

Average is right inbetween the two

Quote from: Rambo89 on October 09, 2023, 08:43:47 PMMahomes must have a great offensive line.  We've been told no QB can ever succeed unless they have a great offensive line.

They also have an elite coaching staff over there. He seems to be propped up pretty well

The Chiefs have been rotating 5 WRs all season, no one seems to be complaining about Mahomes' top 7 scoring offense with a 4-1 record

This assumes any of these names actually declare.

Explain your selection below.

Quote from: JT39 on October 09, 2023, 05:02:09 PMI didn't watch Lawrence play. So how could I? Just speculate on stats? Watching 45 seconds of highlights isn't the way I like to grade out players. Maybe you do, but I tend to look at bigger things than just stats.

If you didn't watch, then you are in no position to say who played better than who.

Quote from: JT39 on October 09, 2023, 04:18:39 PMCJ stroud has worked with less?

There's absolutely no basis for this. I'll take Woods, Collins, and Dell over what we call WRs. Hodgins has been basically benched. Campbell has been benched. Slayton is in the running for the worst number 1 in all of football. So what does Stroud have less than jones? I can easily argue that Schultz is a better all around TE than Waller too.

Stroud hasn't been sacked in 3 games. So I'm pretty sure his OL is much, much better.

There's not one team who wants our OL without Thomas and our skilled players without Barkley.

None, zilch, nada.

 

Quote from: Rambo89 on October 09, 2023, 03:45:37 PMWanna know why I don't take PFF grades seriously?  How about this:

Week 5 Grades:

Daniel Jones: 87.1

Trevor Lawrence: 84.1

PFF believes that Lawrence's 2 fumbles recovered by Buffalo made him less valuable than Jones despite Lawrence throwing for over 300 yards and a TD when Jones barely threw for over 100 yards.

It's all about fitting the narrative or agenda based. When PFF is used in the opposite end, the use of PFF is flawed and viewed in a vacuum.

If DJ wasn't graded how he was, this thread would look very different

How are we 7th in current draft order at 1-4 and the worst point differential in the league?