Big Blue Huddle

Quote from: Bob In PA on April 26, 2024, 08:01:04 AMTonka: Completely agree, but this year IMO they have the answer. Both Robinson and Nabers can contribute in the run-game, and Singletary is a proven NFL-caliber RB. Gray will no longer be a rookie and maybe he's ready to contribute. I think to address your point directly, this year the pass-attack will open it up for the run-game. Daboll/Kafka are not traditional coaches... they prefer the "newfangled" pass-first offenses, and whether we like it or not there will be very little (if any) "Giants' football" on offense and a lot more open attack. Bob

I think you'll see a team that is capable of generating more big plays but struggles mightily to convert short yardage and to run out the clock.

Quote from: Philosophers on April 26, 2024, 09:30:27 AMA breakaway, pass catching RB would be a nice piece to add to this offense which lost one nice piece in Barkley and needs a healthy replacement.  Eric Gray is not the answer.

I want a guy that can get tough yards between the tackles.

Quote from: Jclayton92 on April 26, 2024, 07:42:26 AMOver/under what week the complaints start to roll in via the wrs because the ball isn't getting to them?

Is Nabers the kind of guy that will flap his arms, talk smack to his quarterback, and make remarks to the media if things aren't going well?

Quote from: Bob In PA on April 26, 2024, 07:13:38 AMOther than @MightyGiants point involving adding depth, I see this whole thing differently.

The question to answer is how adding Nabers affects Wan'Dale Robinson, not Slayton. Nabers has the potential to be elite, and one position he can play is WR, and he will be paid like a #1 WR, but these coaches will not deploy him as a traditional #1 WR. 

I can't say how where all the pieces will be when the "dust" settles, but recall that Robinson played mostly out of the backfield in college, and Nabers spent a whole lot of time at LSU in the slot. I expect the Giants to move Nabers and Robinson around a lot and we'll see Robinson being used more like Barkley was. To get full value out of Nabers, they'll have to scheme him open (a lot more than if they had taken Odunze, for example). They can't just flank him out wide on every play.

Bob

PS. Ideally, (once Nabers has his feet on the ground, and assuming no injuries), Hyatt and Slayton will split time torturing defenses deep and one or both of them hopefully will have a big year (fingers crossed).

One thing we are going to see this year is disrespect for our running attack until it proves itself. Teams will focus on taking the deep ball away. This will be a great departure to what we've seen in previous years.

Quote from: bamagiantfan on April 26, 2024, 05:45:35 AMI've always liked Slayton because he seems to outplay his ability every season. But the fact that the Giants have not been able to upgrade the position over the last 4 years has made him valuable to the Giants. He'll show up. He'll compete. He will stay healthy or play hurt. He'll be ready when his number is called. I wish we had more wide receivers like that. Maybe now we do. We'll see.

I agree. I like Slayton.

Quote from: Ed Vette on April 25, 2024, 10:11:33 PMYou have to pull DJ out from under the Bus Nabers threw him under first.

What's this about?

Quote from: Trench on April 25, 2024, 10:02:52 PMDid Thomas play with either Devito, Jones or Tyrod at all this year?....im not sure...all I'm saying is Devito and Tyrod 100% moved the ball WAY WAY better than Jones "when it mattered". That's my point

No matter how awful DeVito's passing was, he had the best pocket awareness of all the quarterbacks on the roster. That ability was kind of special in fact. Obviously that alone isn't enough, but I wish Jones had half of that ability to sense pressure and perceive the rush from the back.

Quote from: AZGiantFan on April 25, 2024, 10:01:04 PMWe've said that about the OL for more than 10 years and it hasn't happened.

So we can say hope springs eternal.

Or we can say expecting it to get better, in each case, is the triumph of hope over experience.

What I meant was eventually the issue is going to demand attention and action. Not that it will just fix itself if we wait long enough.

Quote from: Gmo11 on April 25, 2024, 09:49:52 PMThey'll find something.  They always do.

"Well this is the first time that Daniel Jones has really had time to go through his progressions. So he needs to start developing those skills. To look off the safety and make those reads. It's going to take time."

Quote from: LennG on April 25, 2024, 09:29:25 PMHe can be as fired up as he wants it still takes talent to succeed.
What will the excuses be now?

Probably still offensive line. Or lack of running game production.

Bears are killing it.

Quote from: madbadger on April 25, 2024, 08:59:50 PMIf you're going to take a quarterback early you risk ruining him if you don't have supporting talent around him. They need to come out of this draft with a quality guard and running back and then go all in on a quarterback next year.

So you're planning on a high draft pick in 2025?

Quote from: H-Town G-Fan on April 25, 2024, 08:56:00 PMJJ McCarthy doesn't fix that for at least a year, if at all.

It's going to have to get fixed eventually.

Whatever.

Ugh