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#9301
The Front Porch / Re: How to post a photos and video to the message board
October 20, 2007, 10:00:13 AM #9302
The Front Porch / Re: **Members Profiles**- Post a little about yourself
October 07, 2007, 08:29:47 PM
Welcome Yale Bowl!
#9303
The Front Porch / Re: **Members Profiles**- Post a little about yourself
October 05, 2007, 11:46:12 AM
Great to have you aboard Finnref. I don't know how you feel about it, but with your background, it would be great if you could give us better insights into the injury issues that unfortunately always seem to be an issue with the Giants.
#9304
The Front Porch / Re: **Members Profiles**- Post a little about yourself
October 04, 2007, 04:01:08 PM
Welcome NHJINTFAN, if you look back in the profiles you will see there is a poster named GFICO that you have a lot in common with.
#9305
The Front Porch / Re: **Members Profiles**- Post a little about yourself
September 28, 2007, 01:23:22 PM
Welcome! Glad you guys finally made it over here.
#9306
The Front Porch / Re: **Members Profiles**- Post a little about yourself
September 26, 2007, 09:50:20 AM
Welcome guys, I hope you enjoy your stay.
#9307
The Front Porch / Re: **Members Profiles**- Post a little about yourself
September 20, 2007, 09:27:40 AM
Welcome Rock, yeah I remember you. Glad you decided to log in. I hope we get to hear some of your thoughts and insights.
#9308
The Front Porch / Re: **Members Profiles**- Post a little about yourself
September 08, 2007, 06:03:10 AM #9309
The Front Porch / Re: **Members Profiles**
August 29, 2007, 11:13:58 AM
I'll go first
1) I live in North Jersey, just a stone's throw from the stadium
2) Been a fan since the early 80s
3) I am an IT guy working in the public health secrtor. I am also a volunteer EMT/Rescue tech on a local squad
4) Can't think of anything else
1) I live in North Jersey, just a stone's throw from the stadium
2) Been a fan since the early 80s
3) I am an IT guy working in the public health secrtor. I am also a volunteer EMT/Rescue tech on a local squad
4) Can't think of anything else
#9310
The Front Porch / **Members Profiles**- Post a little about yourself (now with complete list)
August 29, 2007, 11:12:04 AM
Thanks to Afan we now have an easy reference list:
http://giantsfans.net/bbhers.doc
With so many new people, it seemed like a good idea for people to get to know one another. Here is a list of questions, answer the ones you would like to answer.
1) What part of the Country do you live in?
2) How long have you been a Giants fan?
3) What do you do for a living?
4) Anything else you would like to mention about yourself?
Also if you modify your profile (the profile button on the top) and put in your date of birth, your birthday will appear on the board's calendar.
http://giantsfans.net/bbhers.doc
With so many new people, it seemed like a good idea for people to get to know one another. Here is a list of questions, answer the ones you would like to answer.
1) What part of the Country do you live in?
2) How long have you been a Giants fan?
3) What do you do for a living?
4) Anything else you would like to mention about yourself?
Also if you modify your profile (the profile button on the top) and put in your date of birth, your birthday will appear on the board's calendar.
#9311
Giants History / This day in NFL history
August 28, 2007, 09:33:39 AM
NFL History August 28, 1955
The sudden-death overtime rule was used for the first time in a preseason game between the Rams and Giants at Portland, Oregon. The Rams won 23-17 three minutes into OT as quarterback Norm van Brocklin guided a 70-yard scoring drive
The sudden-death overtime rule was used for the first time in a preseason game between the Rams and Giants at Portland, Oregon. The Rams won 23-17 three minutes into OT as quarterback Norm van Brocklin guided a 70-yard scoring drive
#9312
Giants History / A little history curtesy of Dave Klien
July 22, 2007, 09:41:18 AM
He has this trip down memory lane (at least some people's memories) in his latest online offering.
In 1961, the Giants were being led by a new head coach, Allie Sherman. They had a great season, led as they were by a newly-obtained veteran quarterback named Y.A. Tittle and a newly-obtained veteran wide receiver, Del Shofner.
The running game was ordinary at best, featuring aging Alex Webster, younger but equally plodding Phil King and a little-used future star named Joe Morrison.
The Giants approached the final game of the season with a 10-3 record (they only played 14 games in those years), tied with the Philadelphia Eagles, a situation that seems to have always been in place, you know?
The nightmare was that "Big Red" (Webster) and "The Chief" (King) both came up hurt for the final game against the Cleveland Browns in Yankee Stadium. What to do? What to do?
Sherman had to sell his idea to his assistant coaches, but ultimately they agreed. He was going to use the short pass instead of the run; sideline passes, mostly, three and four yards downfield. It didn't matter much if any additional yardage was gained. The completion would set up a second-and-seven, second-and-six, and suddenly the Giants were in a passing mode.
It worked. The game ended in a 7-7 deadlock -- "a tie for Christmas," as one of the local newspapers so cleverly headlined -- while the Eagles lost and finished at 10-4 to the Giants' 10-3-1.
It was on to the NFL championship game, a 37-0 horror show against the Packers in Green Bay, but a championship game nonetheless.
Rest of the article
In 1961, the Giants were being led by a new head coach, Allie Sherman. They had a great season, led as they were by a newly-obtained veteran quarterback named Y.A. Tittle and a newly-obtained veteran wide receiver, Del Shofner.
The running game was ordinary at best, featuring aging Alex Webster, younger but equally plodding Phil King and a little-used future star named Joe Morrison.
The Giants approached the final game of the season with a 10-3 record (they only played 14 games in those years), tied with the Philadelphia Eagles, a situation that seems to have always been in place, you know?
The nightmare was that "Big Red" (Webster) and "The Chief" (King) both came up hurt for the final game against the Cleveland Browns in Yankee Stadium. What to do? What to do?
Sherman had to sell his idea to his assistant coaches, but ultimately they agreed. He was going to use the short pass instead of the run; sideline passes, mostly, three and four yards downfield. It didn't matter much if any additional yardage was gained. The completion would set up a second-and-seven, second-and-six, and suddenly the Giants were in a passing mode.
It worked. The game ended in a 7-7 deadlock -- "a tie for Christmas," as one of the local newspapers so cleverly headlined -- while the Eagles lost and finished at 10-4 to the Giants' 10-3-1.
It was on to the NFL championship game, a 37-0 horror show against the Packers in Green Bay, but a championship game nonetheless.
Rest of the article
#9313
Giants History / Re: Dasher's trivia question 7/17
July 17, 2007, 04:18:18 PM
I don't know a single answer Dasher, but i do wish you happy birthday.
#9314
Giants History / Re: The 1975 logo
July 17, 2007, 04:00:41 PM
Well I don't think the 70s will ever be know for it's fashions.
#9315
Giants History / The 1975 logo
July 16, 2007, 11:49:32 AM
Interesting article
Dear Doctor:
I'm a Giants fan and like the game worn helmets as well as the ones you have made up as shown on the GIANTS SECTION OF THE NFL AREA. These bring back great memories, especially Gifford. One of the Giants helmets you don't see much is the 1975 model with the open type of lettering. It seems that it was used and then discarded right away. Is there any kind of reason for that or story about it? I like your Larry Csonka helmet and story too. Thanks.
Nathan, Long Island
Dear Nathan,
The New York Giants are one of the NFL's most popular teams and the sale of their apparel and related items confirms this fact. Giants fans used to be known as "button down" conservative types in the 1950's and 1960's primarily because the businesses in the New York metropolitan area were among the first in the nation to realize the value of and understand the business producing impact of providing NFL game tickets to corporate partners. Giants fans took a beating in the media for not caring as the sold out Polo Grounds and Yankee Stadium were often populated not by the season ticket holders each game, but a continuously changing sea of businessmen who utilized their tickets for business purposes rather than the wholehearted support of their home team. "Madison Avenue" as the advertising business in Manhattan was called, was the first to utilize football players in advertising campaigns and members of the Giants were the obvious first choice picks. Frank Gifford was the first or certainly one of the first NFL players who made an equivalent income from his modeling career, relative to his NFL salary. Even with truth in the above statement, Giants fans are as vociferous and loyal as any other in the league and they have had great teams and great players to cheer for including the members of the Charlie Connerly-Y.A. Tittle-Frank Gifford-Sam Huff era that produced many division and NFL/World Championships and many Pro Football Hall Of Fame Players. Unfortunately, the team hit a tough patch from the mid-sixties to the early 1980's. Study of the Giants records indicate that many of those years produced .500 ball or finishing records in that area but relative to the championship years and the expectations of their fans, the perception was that the Giants were not doing well at all.
Former Giants great and Pro Football Hall Of Fame member Andy Robustelli had been extremely successful as a Connecticut businessman following his playing career. He had started a number of business ventures prior to the conclusion of his career and had an excellent track record. Giants owner Wellington Mara asked Robustelli to come on board to try and resurrect the structure of the franchise in December of 1973 following a terrible Giants season that found them with a 2-11-1 record. Fan discord was enhanced by the necessity of playing the final five of seven home games in New Haven, CT at the Yale Bowl after vacating Yankee Stadium. Robustelli, as Director Of Operations began to dismantle and then rebuild the team with new head coach Bill Arnsparger but they stumbled to a 2-12 1974 record. With projected occupancy of the new Giants Stadium in the New Jersey Meadowlands not expected until the 1976 season, the Giants were scheduled to play all of their 1975 home games at the Jets' home field, Shea Stadium. Feeling that an entire "new look" was necessary, a brand new practice facility was constructed at Pace College and this was followed by new uniforms. As Robustelli said, "Next came the uniforms, beginning with the helmet that for years had the familiar 'NY' on the side. The Giants needed to be a little more modern in their look without departing entirely from the idea that we still were the New York Giants...we solicited plenty of designs before settling on the modernized version of 'NY' which we used when we played in Shea Stadium. Of course, the 'GIANTS' logo became standard when we moved into Giants Stadium in New Jersey in 1976."
Robustelli also added two one-inch white flanking stripes to augment the standard one-inch red center stripe that had adorned the Giants' navy blue helmet for so long. The reaction of the media and fans wasn't quite what was expected. Unfortunately the fans truly disliked the new-look "NY" logo and if the move to the New Jersey stadium had not been planned, with the dissolution of any logo associated directly with New York or New York City, it probably would not have been more than a one-year decal so great was the fans' negative reaction. The white flanking stripes remained and the new logo that was introduced when the move to the Meadowlands occurred was a long lasting one. The stylized "GIANTS" logo was used for years until the "NY" was reintroduced in 2000. A terrific question that allowed us to wind down memory lane for a while, thank you.
Truly yours,
Dr. Del Rye
http://www.helmethut.com/070907.html
Dear Doctor:
I'm a Giants fan and like the game worn helmets as well as the ones you have made up as shown on the GIANTS SECTION OF THE NFL AREA. These bring back great memories, especially Gifford. One of the Giants helmets you don't see much is the 1975 model with the open type of lettering. It seems that it was used and then discarded right away. Is there any kind of reason for that or story about it? I like your Larry Csonka helmet and story too. Thanks.
Nathan, Long Island
Dear Nathan,
The New York Giants are one of the NFL's most popular teams and the sale of their apparel and related items confirms this fact. Giants fans used to be known as "button down" conservative types in the 1950's and 1960's primarily because the businesses in the New York metropolitan area were among the first in the nation to realize the value of and understand the business producing impact of providing NFL game tickets to corporate partners. Giants fans took a beating in the media for not caring as the sold out Polo Grounds and Yankee Stadium were often populated not by the season ticket holders each game, but a continuously changing sea of businessmen who utilized their tickets for business purposes rather than the wholehearted support of their home team. "Madison Avenue" as the advertising business in Manhattan was called, was the first to utilize football players in advertising campaigns and members of the Giants were the obvious first choice picks. Frank Gifford was the first or certainly one of the first NFL players who made an equivalent income from his modeling career, relative to his NFL salary. Even with truth in the above statement, Giants fans are as vociferous and loyal as any other in the league and they have had great teams and great players to cheer for including the members of the Charlie Connerly-Y.A. Tittle-Frank Gifford-Sam Huff era that produced many division and NFL/World Championships and many Pro Football Hall Of Fame Players. Unfortunately, the team hit a tough patch from the mid-sixties to the early 1980's. Study of the Giants records indicate that many of those years produced .500 ball or finishing records in that area but relative to the championship years and the expectations of their fans, the perception was that the Giants were not doing well at all.
Former Giants great and Pro Football Hall Of Fame member Andy Robustelli had been extremely successful as a Connecticut businessman following his playing career. He had started a number of business ventures prior to the conclusion of his career and had an excellent track record. Giants owner Wellington Mara asked Robustelli to come on board to try and resurrect the structure of the franchise in December of 1973 following a terrible Giants season that found them with a 2-11-1 record. Fan discord was enhanced by the necessity of playing the final five of seven home games in New Haven, CT at the Yale Bowl after vacating Yankee Stadium. Robustelli, as Director Of Operations began to dismantle and then rebuild the team with new head coach Bill Arnsparger but they stumbled to a 2-12 1974 record. With projected occupancy of the new Giants Stadium in the New Jersey Meadowlands not expected until the 1976 season, the Giants were scheduled to play all of their 1975 home games at the Jets' home field, Shea Stadium. Feeling that an entire "new look" was necessary, a brand new practice facility was constructed at Pace College and this was followed by new uniforms. As Robustelli said, "Next came the uniforms, beginning with the helmet that for years had the familiar 'NY' on the side. The Giants needed to be a little more modern in their look without departing entirely from the idea that we still were the New York Giants...we solicited plenty of designs before settling on the modernized version of 'NY' which we used when we played in Shea Stadium. Of course, the 'GIANTS' logo became standard when we moved into Giants Stadium in New Jersey in 1976."
Robustelli also added two one-inch white flanking stripes to augment the standard one-inch red center stripe that had adorned the Giants' navy blue helmet for so long. The reaction of the media and fans wasn't quite what was expected. Unfortunately the fans truly disliked the new-look "NY" logo and if the move to the New Jersey stadium had not been planned, with the dissolution of any logo associated directly with New York or New York City, it probably would not have been more than a one-year decal so great was the fans' negative reaction. The white flanking stripes remained and the new logo that was introduced when the move to the Meadowlands occurred was a long lasting one. The stylized "GIANTS" logo was used for years until the "NY" was reintroduced in 2000. A terrific question that allowed us to wind down memory lane for a while, thank you.
Truly yours,
Dr. Del Rye
http://www.helmethut.com/070907.html