Big Blue Huddle

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on August 04, 2021, 02:25:18 AM
Osi was with Papa the other day commenting on the practice, and he was raving about the Leo's intensity level. I know there had been some concern here about this guy lying down on everyone after getting his money, but my gut is that that won't be the case with him. I think this guy is a gamer. Also don't forget that it's only a three year contract, and he only just turned 27. He will be ultimately playing for one more contract, so I think we will get a max effort from him.

Leonard Williams is somehow under the radar and is a legitimate DPoY candidate, especially with this secondary forcing QBs to hold the ball longer.  His fire has been lit since he moved to the Giants, I'm excited to see what he can do this season. 

Mark.

I'm looking forward to finding out Bob in PAs real name.  And where he lives.

This was a really excellent podcast you guys put together, I loved the note on Robert Sale working with Notre Dame OL. 

If anyone is looking for some pre draft entertainment this a fast-paced and insightful listen.

Sorry to his family, and to you all here that knew Tom personally.  Rest well, Tom.

All my sympathy Rick, such a touching tribute you've written.

https://youtube.com/v/mAbdxQksWUI

Quote from: Ed Vette on August 07, 2018, 09:38:41 AM
Holding is another thing I see by the Offensive Line and that absolutely is a Drive Killer. The Poster Boy for Holding is Eric Flowers. 

We may see alot more of that from Flowers this season, looking for a new contract he is going to be highly focused on keep his sacks allowed number down by any means necessary.

I know what I'm listening to on my way home tonight!

Thanks for all the work, Lee, great stuff.

Great write up Brian, very informative and detailed.  I will take it as good news that their best RB is 34 year old Sproles and their WRs are not good.   Interesting to note Dorial Green-Beckham was cut, he was the player the Titans picked with our 2nd round pick when we traded up for Collins.

Pretty soon you are going to be charging 60 bucks for subscriptions!

Quote from: MightyGiants on May 03, 2017, 09:28:58 AM
If ever a guy was born to be a defensive tackle.....

Not to beat a dead horse but...

Tomlinson had 6 tackles for a loss combined in the past 2 seasons, Jarron Jones had 6 TFLs in one game last season vs. Miami.

Anyway, I am all for both of those guys now, no more draft related negativity from me .... although I do wonder if JJ has a chance to be a better pro.....arghh I did it again!

Ceri, given what a fan you were of Motons, I am glad you prefer Tomlinson for the pick.  Personally, I don't see the dynamism in Tomlinsons game, he looks slow off the snap, and I don't see him having a greater impact on the game than if we had picked up a later round big body, paired with a free agent vet.  Our 2nd round picks have been guys like Strahan, Barber, Osi, Collins, Snee, hopefully DT lives up to that billing.  Also, even as needs go, I think it would have been easier to find a gap plugger, than a 3rd DE, or a capable starting guard.

Anyway, given that Im clearly in the minority on this one, and also hopefully wrong about it, I was not planning to raise it again, but Bob went stirring up the pot again!

I think the 2nd round pick was really the pivotal pick of the draft.  It was no surprise that the Giants picked a DT in the second round, it was certainly our most glaring need, but I think it was a mistake taking Tomlinson there.  Most people on the board appear to love the DT (Dalvin Tomlinson) pick as discussed in an earlier post, but to me he is going to have minimal game impact beyond, at best, holding the line of scrimmage, which is something any of the available free agents Jared Odrick, Jaye Howard, Dan Williams, Sen'Derrick Marks etc. could have provided. 

My main issue with DT is, yes great personality, great wrestling background, but I just don't see any quickness or penetration off the line, I don't see his strength impacting the game at the next level.

Reportedly the Giants went off Zac Cunningham after his interviews, so thats fine, but if not a linebacker I would have preferred Moton or Dawkins to bolster the run game, or DEs Jordan Willis or Basham, to generate pass rush. 

I think the ideal scenario was going TE, OL/DE, Big RB (Foreman or Perine)/CB.  For DT we would have been better off taking a DT later in the fourth round, and adding some veteran depth.

I was fine with the QB in the 3rd, if they really like him, and its not just to have a body, but DT at 2 and then a QB at 3 really limited the impact of this draft for me.  We had the opportunity to bolster a power run game, or add needed pass rushing or corner depth, and really did not accomplish that.

Is it possible?  Is it true?  Has the board finally found something everyone agrees on?!!!   

I don't disagree on your takes, its a pricey venture.  It could prove to be a Julio Jones type trade though, expensive but worth every penny. 

Quote from: bamagiantfan on April 13, 2017, 12:16:54 PM
I've seen a lot of Howard so let me just put this out there. He wasn't the favorite target for any QB at Alabama, ever. Would you want to spend a 1st Round pick, and another pick to trade up for a guy that should be great someday? 11 TEs had more yards than he had last season. 13 had more receptions. Does that sound like a 1st round pick to you?

Its a good point, do you think his production was due to limited ability, not system?  He has to be one of the most freakish athletes ever at the position.