Big Blue Huddle

I think there's more of a chance DeVito will be with them next season than Lock. There's also the chance DeVito begins next season as the starter if they draft a QB.

Quote from: MightyGiants on November 18, 2024, 03:40:21 PMI just remembered that since these were not likely to be earned incentives, they would count against next year's cap (where they have more money) than this year's cap, where they are tight.

Maybe they're trying to save next year's cap space to sign Aaron Rodgers. 

A back-up with a team with stability in its management and coaching staffs and a decent offensive line.

Quote from: LennG on November 18, 2024, 01:09:30 PMI sure hope he saved and invested his fat paychecks wisely because he ain't never seeing that kind of money again.

Maybe the Eagles, he can keep Barkley's seat warm while he is running all over t he field.

He was set for life with his rookie contract. I believe he still gets a buy out.

Quote from: Giantleap56 on November 15, 2024, 08:41:36 AMThis is why you fire the GM. He should have traded Barkley when he had a chance. To have him in the same division and tormenting the Giants is borderline sabotage on the GM's part. What Schoen lacks is a vision for the Giants and that is one of the General Manager's biggest goals.

I agree, they should've traded him to get some value, but he still would've been a free agent after last season and probably signed with Philly anyway.

Quote from: MightyGiants on November 04, 2024, 09:41:51 AMArt Stapleton
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Head coach shows he can win when the chips are down, costs Giants shot at franchise QB

Was he trying to show he could win when the chips are down or simply just trying to win every game? Any coach caught tanking would probably be fined by the league, fired by the owner and have a very bad mark on his record when applying for other coaching jobs. Even if he wasn't caught, losing games is the most common reason NFL coaches get fired.

Quote from: uconnjack8 on November 07, 2024, 12:37:02 PMDoes Daniels have all day because teams are trying to keep him in the pocket? 

Jones is dangerous out of the pocket too.

If Johnson was the problem, why did they need to bring in several new offensive linemen after each of his seasons? They brought in 3 new starters for Carmen Bricillo to work with after he left. I laughed at the people blaming Johnson last year.

Making no trades could also mean the GM feels he needs to win some this year to keep his job.

Quote from: sxdxca38 on November 06, 2024, 08:15:38 AMOjulari has expressed he loves playing for the Giants, so I hope that they can re-sign him inexpensively in the offseason, but we will have to see what he wants.

Barkley said he loved playing for the Giants. Ojulari will do the same, go for the money.

Quote from: MrGap92 on November 05, 2024, 10:12:14 AMLooks like all it took was a swap of Dal 4th for CAR 7th

I don't like this at all, I think in a better environment this guy can play, now I hope that is not the case.

Hard to say which environment is worse, Carolina, Dallas or the Giants.

Quote from: BlueMoshik on November 04, 2024, 06:40:05 PMThey intervened with the Maras in 1979 because after head coach John McVay was fired and "operations director" Andy Robustelli went back to running his travel agency in Connecticut, in the aftermath of the notorious Fumble, Wellington and Tim could not agree on their successors, at all, and stopped talking. The NFL had no choice. Pete Rozelle "suggested" George Young as GM (the franchise's first), but Young was really an NFL appointment. And Young became, from 1979 until he left in 1996 (to work for the league), the dictator of the New York Giants.

The rest of the history you all know.

Tim didn't want to hire anyone, he purposly suggested names he knew Wellington would reject because what he really wanted was to get Wellington away from the team operations or doing regular GM duties. He suggested Robustelli run the team at the end of the Alex Webster rein and they hired him, but Wellington was still running the team and it was not much better than it was in 1971. Tim knew that whoever was hired wouldn't matter because Wellington couldn't keep his hands off. Rozelle didn't appoint Young. Young was the 2nd or possibly the 3rd name suggested. Earlier Rozelle suggestions turned down the job.

Quote from: MightyGiants on November 04, 2024, 11:37:00 AMIt's unusual for the NFL to get involved.  However, the NFL is a shared revenue model.  NYC is the biggest media market.  It doesn't serve the NFL's best interest to have two of the worst teams in their biggest media market

The league can't help a team because they're in the largest market. It wouldn't be fair to small market teams that might benefit from league assistance.

The commissioner can't get involved simply because a team performs poorly for a period of time. Rozelle got involved with the Giants in '79 because of a major conflict with the owners. Tim Mara tried to get Rozelle involved in several matters starting around 1975 and he refused. Other owners who were also close to the Mara's finally pushed Rozelle to get involved as the situation was an embarrassment to the league. Poor teams in NY hurting TV negotiations were just a part of why Rozelle got involved. Rozelle mediated the dispute between the owners and Suggested candidates for GM.

The Giants aren't the only team that has gone thru a long stretch of poor play. The Saints were a terrible team thru the 60's and 70's and the league didn't get involved. The Cleveland Browns were a most recent joke of an organization. I don't think the commissioner got involved with them.

The only time I remember a commissioner getting involved with the running of the team itself was the NBA commissioner banning the Cleveland team from trading draft picks when they got to the point where the league felt they wouldn't be able to field a team within a few years.

The decision to let Barkley go was made months ago and can't be reversed. If Schoen felt Tracy could carry the load as a rookie and beyond, he would've drafted him in an earlier round. He probably felt better about Eric Gray last year because he drafted him in the 5th round.