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Quote from: T200 on January 24, 2025, 03:24:33 PMLove you, Eli, but you also endorsed Jones.

Before or after they selected him?  I don't recall.

FWIW, I went to opening day in 2016 at Cowboy Stadium, a game the Giants won, and although I was wearing Giants' merch and rooting for them, I was not mistreated in any way.  The Cowboys fans were pretty good natured.

Their original sin was completely misreading the significance, or rather insignificance, of the 2022 season.  Despite making the playoffs and winning a playoff game they were a bad team in need of a complete rebuilding.  Everything flowed from there.

Quote from: Trench on December 16, 2024, 10:46:25 AMThis is fantastic info you found!


Thanks for looking that up AZ

You might find this site interesting: https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/team-stats/

It has team rankings in a wide variety of offensive and defensive categories and goes back to 2003.  That is where I got the TOP info.

Quote from: Messiah717 on December 15, 2024, 11:23:22 PMThis is the real question.  There still seems to be this idea that this roster has a ton of talent being held back by the QB play. 

Personally I think that argument doesn't hold water.  For example, QB play has nothing to do with their ranking of 30/32 in yielding yards per carry.  Nor does it account for being 29/32 in opponent's passer rating.

Quote from: Trench on December 15, 2024, 11:21:42 PMThanks AZ!!...I find it fascinating that we do well in time of possesion yet can't get TDs.

Question is, how much of this will be on the coach?...maybe we are seeing a trend where crappy teams are actually winning the time of possesion battle

No, the teams ahead of them are Pittsburg, Houston, Detroit, Philly, KC, Miami, SF, and TB.

Quote from: Giant Jim on December 15, 2024, 01:38:03 PMHow does theHow has the team's value increased compared to other NFL teams? The NFL's television and gambling contracts have the most to do with the increased value, not Tisch or Mara.

It is the result of belonging to a monopoly cartel.

Quote from: Trench on December 15, 2024, 06:21:37 PMI remember for years watching Madden and Summeral and they would say "control ti e of possession and u win" but I sincerely think it is opposite in todays NFL (at least as it relates to the Giants)

They are 2-12 yet they are 9th in the league at TOP at 51.31%, FWIW.

Quote from: T200 on December 15, 2024, 10:34:20 PMYou're already projecting that these guys will be fired in 2 years. Yet, you're optimistic another duo will right the ship. Knowing they current duo didn't have a decent QB to lead the team, why not give them the same opportunity with a legit QB that you're willing to do for a new regime?

Because it's not just the QB.  Is there really any part of the team and roster that has seen significant improvement during their regime?  Surely the complete deterioration of the whole team since the "glory days" of the deeply misleading 2022 can't be excused by laying it at Daniel Jones' feet?

Can paper bags over the fans' heads be far behind?

https://www.nbcnews.com/sports/nfl/49ers-linebacker-devondre-campbell-refused-play-rams-move-blasted-team-rcna184116

Ironic that the SNL cold opening kind of predicted this.

Quote from: 4 Aces on December 04, 2024, 03:14:08 PMCoughlin has 2 rings as a Head Coach, Holmgren has 1.

With all the other stats being close, I think it's plenty fair to give the nod to TC. Super Bowls obviouly matter tremendously.

Not to mention building a team from scratch and making the playoffs in 4 of his first 5 years including 2 AFC championship games.

I say a rolling 4 years, rolling until I see some sign of eptness breaking the hold ineptness has had on them for more than a decade.  Thank goodness for my futból team.

Quote from: MightyGiants on November 22, 2024, 03:56:37 PMA fact is evidence-based and objective.
"There are 7 continents on Earth."

FWIW, this is not a fact, it is a combination of definition and common acceptance.