Big Blue Huddle

Maybe Schoen is more enamored with what DeVito did before getting his head slammed off the turf than most here thought.

Of course they will start Danny Boy (they are paying him a fortune), but there is a good chance he will not be the same player after that injury that he was.  He might go down again.  With a career record of 22-37-1 Jones is no prize.

The new veteran they brought in to back him up- Drew Lock is a journeyman.  There is no indictor that this guy also with a 9-14 record as a starter can pull the wagon

That leaves Tommy and he might have some magic left in his game....time will tell
Tommy is 3-2 as a starter and has proven ability to drop in long passes outside the numbers   Something Jones could never do and likely cannot learn at this point

Are we set at QB....no.   

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Tommy is worth trying to develop into a competent backup QB.  That is the best that can be expected.

If Tommy is the long term answer, we are asking the wrong question.

I don't see it. DeVito was only the full-time starter in three of his five collegiate seasons. Add to the fact he will be 26 years old in August. I don't expect him to be on the roster after this season. I wish we had gotten a QB in the latter rounds, but then again, we only had 6 picks. I will be keeping my eyes on Carsen Beck and Quinn Ewers this upcoming college season

Quote from: ViewFromSection129 on May 02, 2024, 12:44:23 PMTommy is worth trying to develop into a competent backup QB.  That is the best that can be expected.

He seemed very competent to me in HS, in College and again in his 5 game tenure with us

Jones had the same horrific losing record in College.  The Giants love those Duke QBs

According to Might's post Lock has carried forward a collection of bad habits that even his father pointed out to him to no avail

Tommy has done nothing but win throughout his football career. His teammates love him and he exudes confidence.  This cannot be said about the other two

Jones is basically a running QB and Lock has mediocre written all over him.

Sadly with todays NFL rules, no QB, no cigar

Quote from: brownelvis54 on May 02, 2024, 01:37:50 PMI don't see it. DeVito was only the full-time starter in three of his five collegiate seasons. Add to the fact he will be 26 years old in August. I don't expect him to be on the roster after this season. I wish we had gotten a QB in the latter rounds, but then again, we only had 6 picks. I will be keeping my eyes on Carsen Beck and Quinn Ewers this upcoming college season

LOL you didn't expect him to be on the roster this year....dont deny it
Schoen went out of his way to include DeVito in his reasoning to not draft a QB

Lets see where the Chips fall....Jones will be on a short leash.  Lock is no "lock"to replace him

That leaves the Jersey hero

Schoen has made comments that placed him in the middle of the road regarding QB all along.  After things fell the way they did why would he say anything that might decrease DJ's probability for success?

If they are going to be on your roster than you support them and Schoen is doing just that yet is always looking at his options.

If Tommy was in the running he would not have signed Lock. There is a good chance 2 of the 3 QB's will be gone next season.

Quote from: BluesCruz on May 02, 2024, 01:44:24 PMLOL you didn't expect him to be on the roster this year....dont deny it
Schoen went out of his way to include DeVito in his reasoning to not draft a QB

Lets see where the Chips fall....Jones will be on a short leash.  Lock is no "lock"to replace him

That leaves the Jersey hero

What else is he supposed to say? This draft happened the way it had to happen. Prior to the draft we had nothing on offense that scared defensive coaches around the league. We add players to our roster to build our team for the future. Nabers will command attention and that will hopefully equal to other players getting open. We addressed the O-line in FA and UDFA and got a new O-line coach. These issues of bringing in talent and trying to fix the O-line was priority. Jones and Cutlets are already paid for 2024 season. Joe knows this. Unless something drastically changes this upcoming year.....then good bye Jones and Culets. They are just bodies filling a position as of now

Tommy seems to be quite under-rated because of his pre-nfl portfolio. I watched a couple of his games and I really think the kid has some special ability. He has a pretty good arm. He is accurate and throws some catchable balls. His pocket presence is excellent. He can buy time and hit the target running. If no one is open he tries to run or secures the ball for minimal loss. In the Washington game, behind that atrocious line, he was sacked 9 times, but was still able to throw some nice completions and win the game.
On the Jets game, I think, they tied his hands and he still almost won that game! He could have been 4-1, in 5 games with a lousy O line and average targets.

Quote from: EDjohnst1981 on May 02, 2024, 01:10:33 PMIf Tommy is the long term answer, we are asking the wrong question.

Remember there was no tape on Cutlets and now there is some and every team that is scheduled to play us will be breaking it down. The sophomore slump is real. He's a UDFA. If anything, he's already far exceeded expectations. Enjoy the ride but no, he is not the QB of the future. He will soon be 26 years old. If we can get a young cheap QB2 next year will. I can see Lock being the starter in 2025, until our rookie QB is ready to start. Ewers or Beck or whomever it will be. Cutlets will be remembered for the Italian memes; he gave us some fun games in a season that has been abysmal. After 2024 the Giants will turn the page

Quote from: GloryDays on May 02, 2024, 02:02:11 PMTommy seems to be quite under-rated because of his pre-nfl portfolio. I watched a couple of his games and I really think the kid has some special ability. He has a pretty good arm. He is accurate and throws some catchable balls. His pocket presence is excellent. He can buy time and hit the target running. If no one is open he tries to run or secures the ball for minimal loss. In the Washington game, behind that atrocious line, he was sacked 9 times, but was still able to throw some nice completions and win the game.
On the Jets game, I think, they tied his hands and he still almost won that game! He could have been 4-1, in 5 games with a lousy O line and average targets.

I agree. Some people just can't get past his lack of pre-NFL credentials but the eye test doesn't lie. I don't believe a Gardner Minshew type career is out of the question for him if he can land in the right situation. 

Everyone of us here have a right to be disappointed about not getting the last franchise grade QB in the draft. There is a reason QBs went 1-2-3 and then not another until pick 8 (and a surprise pick at that).

Short of that, Giants decided no QB outside of the top 3 was a clear upgrade to DJ. Whether they are right or wrong will be proven soon. We have the support pieces in place now at least in theory. An OL that was further addressed with veterans not rookies with learning curves , a legitimate OL coach and a day ready made WR1.

We as the Big Blue Fans of Folk Lore need to be rooting like heck for DJ . He is the guy with the highest talent upside of any of the QBs we have. Therefore, if he finally hits that ceiling with all the better support pieces that are in place , this team would be the best version of what it could be starting next year!

Quote from: Uncle Mickey on May 02, 2024, 05:56:09 PMEveryone of us here have a right to be disappointed about not getting the last franchise grade QB in the draft. There is a reason QBs went 1-2-3 and then not another until pick 8 (and a surprise pick at that).

Short of that, Giants decided no QB outside of the top 3 was a clear upgrade to DJ. Whether they are right or wrong will be proven soon. We have the support pieces in place now at least in theory. An OL that was further addressed with veterans not rookies with learning curves , a legitimate OL coach and a day ready made WR1.

We as the Big Blue Fans of Folk Lore need to be rooting like heck for DJ . He is the guy with the highest talent upside of any of the QBs we have. Therefore, if he finally hits that ceiling with all the better support pieces that are in place , this team would be the best version of what it could be starting next year!

Exactly!

one must not forget Tommy got thrown to the beast with little preparation

he kook the opportunity and beat Philly, his throws along the boundaries are world class

he keeps his head together and inspires the offense and never panics

Brown and Id dare say Lock do not posses this kind of polish and confidence...sorry but the Jersey Tomato is the best of the lot by far.  I think Schoen knows this too

Will dump Brown at ist opportuity, disregard Lock and promote Tommy who has gotten lots of reps running the practice teaming will be ready when called