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Week 6 QBR Leaders

Started by Ed Vette, October 16, 2024, 08:58:16 AM

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Ed Vette

NFL Week 6 QBR leaders

Brock Purdy, San Francisco 49ers (36-24 win at Seahawks) — 90.5
Caleb Williams, Chicago Bears (35-16 win vs. Jaguars) — 88.4
Joe Burrow, Cincinnati Bengals (17-7 win vs. Giants) — 87.7
Josh Allen, Buffalo Bills (23-20 win at Jets)
Kirk Cousins, Atlanta Falcons (38-20 win at Panthers) — 85.3
Jordan Love, Green Bay Packers (34-13 win vs. Cardinals) — 81.4
Justin Fields, Pittsburgh Steelers (32-13 win at Raiders) — 74.7
Justin Herbert, Los Angeles Chargers (23-16 win at Broncos) — 74.6
C.J. Stroud, Houston Texans (41-21 win at Patriots) — 74.5
Jayden Daniels, Washington Commanders (30-23 loss at Ravens) — 74.2
Jalen Hurts, Philadelphia Eagles (20-16 win vs. Browns) — 73.1
Joe Flacco, Indianapolis Colts (20-17 win at Titans) — 72.8
Lamar Jackson, Baltimore Ravens (30-23 win vs. Commanders) — 72.5
Jared Goff, Detroit Lions (47-9 win at Cowboys) — 71.3
Trevor Lawrence, Jacksonville Jaguars (35-16 loss at Bears) — 66.6
Aaron Rodgers, New York Jets (23-20 loss vs. Bills)
Bo Nix, Denver Broncos (23-16 loss at Chargers) — 56.0
Kyler Murray, Arizona Cardinals (34-13 loss at Packers) —55.8
Geno Smith, Seattle Seahawks (36-24 loss vs. 49ers) — 53.1
Baker Mayfield, Tampa Bay Buccaneers (51-27 win at Saints) — 52.1
Andy Dalton, Carolina Panthers (38-20 loss vs. Panthers) — 51.0
Aidan O'Connell, Las Vegas Raiders (32-13 loss vs. Steelers) — 47.7
Deshaun Watson, Cleveland Browns (20-16 loss at Eagles) — 34.6
Drake Maye, New England Patriots (41-21 loss vs. Texans) — 31.1
Will Levis, Tennessee Titans (20-17 loss vs. Colts) — 29.0
Spencer Rattler, New Orleans Saints (51-27 loss vs. Buccaneers) — 27.7
Daniel Jones, New York Giants (17-7 loss vs. Bengals) — 18.2
Dak Prescott, Dallas Cowboys (47-9 loss vs. Lions) — 11.4
"There is a greater purpose...that purpose is team. Winning, losing, playing hard, playing well, doing it for each other, winning the right way, winning the right way is a very important thing to me... Championships are won by teams who love one another, who respect one another, and play for and support one another."
~ Coach Tom Coughlin

Philosophers

Quote from: Ed Vette on October 16, 2024, 08:58:16 AMNFL Week 6 QBR leaders

Brock Purdy, San Francisco 49ers (36-24 win at Seahawks) — 90.5
Caleb Williams, Chicago Bears (35-16 win vs. Jaguars) — 88.4
Joe Burrow, Cincinnati Bengals (17-7 win vs. Giants) — 87.7
Josh Allen, Buffalo Bills (23-20 win at Jets)
Kirk Cousins, Atlanta Falcons (38-20 win at Panthers) — 85.3
Jordan Love, Green Bay Packers (34-13 win vs. Cardinals) — 81.4
Justin Fields, Pittsburgh Steelers (32-13 win at Raiders) — 74.7
Justin Herbert, Los Angeles Chargers (23-16 win at Broncos) — 74.6
C.J. Stroud, Houston Texans (41-21 win at Patriots) — 74.5
Jayden Daniels, Washington Commanders (30-23 loss at Ravens) — 74.2
Jalen Hurts, Philadelphia Eagles (20-16 win vs. Browns) — 73.1
Joe Flacco, Indianapolis Colts (20-17 win at Titans) — 72.8
Lamar Jackson, Baltimore Ravens (30-23 win vs. Commanders) — 72.5
Jared Goff, Detroit Lions (47-9 win at Cowboys) — 71.3
Trevor Lawrence, Jacksonville Jaguars (35-16 loss at Bears) — 66.6
Aaron Rodgers, New York Jets (23-20 loss vs. Bills)
Bo Nix, Denver Broncos (23-16 loss at Chargers) — 56.0
Kyler Murray, Arizona Cardinals (34-13 loss at Packers) —55.8
Geno Smith, Seattle Seahawks (36-24 loss vs. 49ers) — 53.1
Baker Mayfield, Tampa Bay Buccaneers (51-27 win at Saints) — 52.1
Andy Dalton, Carolina Panthers (38-20 loss vs. Panthers) — 51.0
Aidan O'Connell, Las Vegas Raiders (32-13 loss vs. Steelers) — 47.7
Deshaun Watson, Cleveland Browns (20-16 loss at Eagles) — 34.6
Drake Maye, New England Patriots (41-21 loss vs. Texans) — 31.1
Will Levis, Tennessee Titans (20-17 loss vs. Colts) — 29.0
Spencer Rattler, New Orleans Saints (51-27 loss vs. Buccaneers) — 27.7
Daniel Jones, New York Giants (17-7 loss vs. Bengals) — 18.2
Dak Prescott, Dallas Cowboys (47-9 loss vs. Lions) — 11.4


Ready to hang myself after seeing this.

Ed Vette

Quote from: Philosophers on October 16, 2024, 09:13:26 AMReady to hang myself after seeing this.
Yeah, the whatabout narrative that Burrow also had a bad game didn't fly with me even before seeing this.

Flacco at age 39 has been amazing and a good mentor for Anthony Richardson. Two of the rookie QBs doing very well and all four better than Jones on worse teams. At least Prescott is also struggling.
"There is a greater purpose...that purpose is team. Winning, losing, playing hard, playing well, doing it for each other, winning the right way, winning the right way is a very important thing to me... Championships are won by teams who love one another, who respect one another, and play for and support one another."
~ Coach Tom Coughlin

EDjohnst1981

#3
Thanks for this, Ed.

I've stuck it in a table alongside the defensive rankings, yards allowed and number of TDs each D has allowed.

I've re-ordered it from best to worst performing unit

Source: Fox Sports

Ed Vette

Quote from: EDjohnst1981 on October 16, 2024, 09:28:38 AMThanks for this, Ed.

I've stuck it in a table alongside the defensive rankings, yards allowed and number of TDs each D has allowed.

I've re-ordered it from best to worst performing unit
So the Defense of the opposing team?
"There is a greater purpose...that purpose is team. Winning, losing, playing hard, playing well, doing it for each other, winning the right way, winning the right way is a very important thing to me... Championships are won by teams who love one another, who respect one another, and play for and support one another."
~ Coach Tom Coughlin

EDjohnst1981

Quote from: Ed Vette on October 16, 2024, 09:43:59 AMSo the Defense of the opposing team?

Yes.

The QB rating is his, the rest of the stats relate to the opposing Defense.

babywhales

Quote from: EDjohnst1981 on October 16, 2024, 09:28:38 AMThanks for this, Ed.
I've stuck it in a table alongside the defensive rankings, yards allowed and number of TDs each D has allowed.
I've re-ordered it from best to worst performing unit
Source: Fox Sports
Quote from: EDjohnst1981 on October 16, 2024, 09:28:38 AMThanks for this, Ed.
I've stuck it in a table alongside the defensive rankings, yards allowed and number of TDs each D has allowed.
I've re-ordered it from best to worst performing unit
Source: Fox Sports
    A reminder on the variable of QBR
    • Each QB "action play" (passes, rushes, sacks, scrambles, or penalties attributable to the QB) is measured in terms of the expected points added (EPA)
    • Adjust for the difficulty of each play. EPA is adjusted based on the type and depth of a pass, and whether the QB was pressured.
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    • There is a discount on [color=var(--color-progressive,#36c)]garbage time[/url], or a time where the score is out of reach near the end of the game.[/font][/size][/color]
    • Opponent adjustment: More credit is given with tougher defenses and vice versa.
    • QBR averages the adjusted EPA per play and transforms it to a 0 to 100 scale, with 50 being average.



"The biggest problem with communication is the illusion that it has been accomplished."– G.B.S

sxdxca38

QBR Rankings week 5

Josh Allen, Buffalo Bills (QBR: 77.6)
Joe Burrow, Cincinnati Bengals (73.6)
Jayden Daniels, Washington Commanders (73.2)
Joe Flacco, Indianapolis Colts (72.4)
Andy Dalton, Carolina Panthers (67.1)
Lamar Jackson, Baltimore Ravens (67.1)
Kyler Murray, Arizona Cardinals (66.4)
Brock Purdy, San Francisco 49ers (66.0)
C.J. Stroud, Houston Texans (64.4)
Baker Mayfield, Tampa Bay Buccaneers (64.0)
Derek Carr, New Orleans Saints (63.6)
Geno Smith, Seattle Seahawks (63.5)
Daniel Jones, New York Giants (61.3)

As you can see Daniel Jones was ranked 13th.

sxdxca38

Week 4

Josh Allen, Buffalo Bills (QBR: 82.3)
Andy Dalton, Carolina Panthers (76.1)
Sam Darnold, Minnesota Vikings (73.5)
Jayden Daniels, Washington Commanders (73.3)
Brock Purdy, San Francisco 49ers (73.3)
Joe Burrow, Cincinnati Bengals (70.8)
Lamar Jackson, Baltimore Ravens (68.8)
Kyler Murray, Arizona Cardinals (68.1)
Derek Carr, New Orleans Saints (64.4)
Geno Smith, Seattle Seahawks (63.9)
Jalen Hurts, Philadelphia Eagles (61.4)
C.J. Stroud, Houston Texans (61.3)
Baker Mayfield, Tampa Bay Buccaneers (56.9)
Daniel Jones, New York Giants (55.7)

Daniel Jones was ranked 14th. As you can see having a balanced perspective can help to see a clearer picture

Ed Vette

Season

Total QBR - All NFL
RK
NAME
1   

J. Allen
BUF
2   

J. Burrow
CIN
3   

J. Daniels
WSH
4   

J. Flacco
IND
5   

B. Purdy
SF
6   

L. Jackson
BAL
7   

C.J. Stroud
HOU
8   

K. Murray
ARI
9   

A. Dalton
CAR
10   

D. Carr
NO
11   

J. Hurts
PHI
12   

B. Mayfield
TB
13   

G. Smith
SEA
14   

K. Cousins
ATL
15   

S. Darnold
MIN
16   

P. Mahomes
KC
17   

J. Love
GB
18   

T. Lawrence
JAX
19   

M. Stafford
LAR
20   

J. Fields
PIT
21   

D. Jones
NYG
22   

A. Rodgers
NYJ
23   

J. Herbert
LAC
24   

J. Goff
DET
25   

D. Prescott
DAL
26   

C. Williams
CHI
27   

B. Nix
DEN
28   

G. Minshew
LV
29   

J. Brissett
NE
30   

W. Levis
TEN
31   

D. Watson
CLE

For perspective.
"There is a greater purpose...that purpose is team. Winning, losing, playing hard, playing well, doing it for each other, winning the right way, winning the right way is a very important thing to me... Championships are won by teams who love one another, who respect one another, and play for and support one another."
~ Coach Tom Coughlin

EDjohnst1981

#10
So 22nd ranked QB at 1/3 mark of the season and the highest ranked defence he's faced was the 14th ranked Vikes.

Last year, a lot was made of the murderer's row he faced in the first six weeks, he's not faced that this season.

Ed Vette

For perspective.
"Oh, but whatabout Watson?!?"
"There is a greater purpose...that purpose is team. Winning, losing, playing hard, playing well, doing it for each other, winning the right way, winning the right way is a very important thing to me... Championships are won by teams who love one another, who respect one another, and play for and support one another."
~ Coach Tom Coughlin

babywhales

75 is considered excellent
50 is average

So put DJ's scores in perspective

In the 6th year a team should be saying how do we survive without him?  Not do you think he can be a consistent game manager?

"The biggest problem with communication is the illusion that it has been accomplished."– G.B.S

kingm56

Quote from: EDjohnst1981 on October 16, 2024, 12:22:59 PMSo 22nd ranked QB at 1/3 mark of the season and the highest ranked defence he's faced was the 14th ranked Vikes.

Last year, a lot was made of the murderer's row he faced in the first six weeks, he's not faced that this season.

And he's had perfect weather and above average pass-protection...