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Started by AZGiantFan, June 15, 2024, 07:03:20 PM

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AZGiantFan

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I remember in the 70's when i was commuting on the subway into Manhattan coming across and read a book about the Ultra project and the breaking of Enigma.  it ha just been declassified.

My only quibble is that the movie spends time on Turing tragic personal life while distorting or ommitting some other things in order to make it seem that Turing won the war single handedly.  such as:

a) the mathematical groundwork for breaking Enigma was done by Polish mathemeticians

b) other codebreakers has significant successes, such as the American codebreakers whose breaking of the Japanese codes made Midway and the strategic reversal in the Pacific possible

c) the ignoring of Gordon Welchman who, long before the breaking of Enigma, invented the science of signal processing, where analysis of radio traffic, without knowing the contents of the messages, could be analyzed and yield strategic and tactical intelligence.  This is the science behind the NSA monitoring of virtually all electronic communications in Fort Meade.  He has his own tragic story as he grew uneasy  about the way his methods were being used, post war, and was crushed by the US government.  I may post a video about him, although if i do i'll make a new thread, as i want to limit the clips in this thread to under 10 minutes.

Turings real value was his development of the general use computer, but the Enigma story was more sexy.  I just have a hard time with the notion, that is subtly and not so subtly pedaled, that he won the war when so many others, from the American factory workers, to the soldiers, sailors, and airmen, to the Russians, etc. were the ones who paid the price.  Not to mention the scientists of the Manhattan project.  Turing played his part, but it gets overblown IMO.
I'd rather be a disappointed optimist than a vindicated pessimist. 

Not slowing my roll

Jolly Blue Giant

Quote from: AZGiantFan on June 15, 2024, 07:40:47 PM

That scene from "Good Will Hunting" was great, but the math scene was better...IMHO


And the professor can't deal with it

I told my teenage son, when I was his age, I used to get 10 CDs in the mail for a penny. I don't know if he thought I was lying or even knew what a CD was, or what a penny was, or what the mail was, or all of the above

Jolly Blue Giant

I told my teenage son, when I was his age, I used to get 10 CDs in the mail for a penny. I don't know if he thought I was lying or even knew what a CD was, or what a penny was, or what the mail was, or all of the above

Jolly Blue Giant

I told my teenage son, when I was his age, I used to get 10 CDs in the mail for a penny. I don't know if he thought I was lying or even knew what a CD was, or what a penny was, or what the mail was, or all of the above

Jolly Blue Giant

I told my teenage son, when I was his age, I used to get 10 CDs in the mail for a penny. I don't know if he thought I was lying or even knew what a CD was, or what a penny was, or what the mail was, or all of the above

Jolly Blue Giant

I told my teenage son, when I was his age, I used to get 10 CDs in the mail for a penny. I don't know if he thought I was lying or even knew what a CD was, or what a penny was, or what the mail was, or all of the above

Jolly Blue Giant

I told my teenage son, when I was his age, I used to get 10 CDs in the mail for a penny. I don't know if he thought I was lying or even knew what a CD was, or what a penny was, or what the mail was, or all of the above


Jolly Blue Giant

I told my teenage son, when I was his age, I used to get 10 CDs in the mail for a penny. I don't know if he thought I was lying or even knew what a CD was, or what a penny was, or what the mail was, or all of the above

Jolly Blue Giant

The family football game (Wedding Crashers)

I told my teenage son, when I was his age, I used to get 10 CDs in the mail for a penny. I don't know if he thought I was lying or even knew what a CD was, or what a penny was, or what the mail was, or all of the above

Jolly Blue Giant

A couple of favorites -  there are soooo many (the "nip", "George's toupĂ©e", "George's car smashed from a guy jumping off the hospital roof", the "richshaw", "no soup for you", etc., etc


I told my teenage son, when I was his age, I used to get 10 CDs in the mail for a penny. I don't know if he thought I was lying or even knew what a CD was, or what a penny was, or what the mail was, or all of the above

Jolly Blue Giant

If you liked "Good Will Hunting", you're going to love a little girl named Mary in "Gifted"





I told my teenage son, when I was his age, I used to get 10 CDs in the mail for a penny. I don't know if he thought I was lying or even knew what a CD was, or what a penny was, or what the mail was, or all of the above

AZGiantFan

I'd rather be a disappointed optimist than a vindicated pessimist. 

Not slowing my roll