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PFF ranks the Giants’ offensive line last in the NFL

Started by LennG, May 13, 2024, 08:20:31 PM

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AZGiantFan

Quote from: BluesCruz on May 20, 2024, 05:54:35 PMThey seemed a lot better blocking for Tommy D

Perhaps they raise their game a bit for a decent QB......not a guy afraid to let the ball fly

That's funny, since with better personnel (Thomas and Pugh) they gave up a higher percentage of sacks when he was under center than they did when DJ was under center.
I'd rather be a disappointed optimist than a vindicated pessimist. 

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Trench

Quote from: AZGiantFan on May 20, 2024, 08:54:49 PMThat's funny, since with better personnel (Thomas and Pugh) they gave up a higher percentage of sacks when he was under center than they did when DJ was under center.

I think it seemed better because he threw it downfield more and made more plays.

AZGiantFan

Quote from: Trench on May 20, 2024, 11:48:31 PMI think it seemed better because he threw it downfield more and made more plays.

And that's the problem with the eye test, when it isn't fact checked by measurables.
I'd rather be a disappointed optimist than a vindicated pessimist. 

Not slowing my roll

Doc16LT56

Justin Pugh did not represent an improvement in personnel. He was terrible on the field, despite his likeable personality. He had a 41.6 PFF grade (compared to 42.4 for Ezeudu who's been a complete disaster).

Pugh was on the couch, played 12 terrible games for the Giants, and is back on the couch where he belongs

BluesCruz

Quote from: Doc16LT56 on May 21, 2024, 12:35:33 PMJustin Pugh did not represent an improvement in personnel. He was terrible on the field, despite his likeable personality. He had a 41.6 PFF grade (compared to 42.4 for Ezeudu who's been a complete disaster).

Pugh was on the couch, played 12 terrible games for the Giants, and is back on the couch where he belongs


I don't know.  Did Pugh retire
Last I heard he intended to bulk up and get ready to rumble in 2024

Guy loves the Giants team and was a coach on the field.  A great confidence boost to an online that looked lost

My sons best friend was a neighbor of Pugh's growing up and had nothing but great things to say about Justin Pugh
Napoleon- "If you have a cannon- USE IT"

Doc16LT56

Quote from: BluesCruz on May 21, 2024, 12:53:51 PMI don't know.  Did Pugh retire
Last I heard he intended to bulk up and get ready to rumble in 2024

Guy loves the Giants team and was a coach on the field.  A great confidence boost to an online that looked lost

My sons best friend was a neighbor of Pugh's growing up and had nothing but great things to say about Justin Pugh
That's the problem with Pugh. Great guy but was a terrible player last season. So far he's still on the couch. He may be waiting for another rash of injuries before some team calls him out of desperation. But he's absolutely a great guy. He's the guy you'd invite to the cookout every time.

BluesCruz

Quote from: AZGiantFan on May 20, 2024, 08:54:49 PMThat's funny, since with better personnel (Thomas and Pugh) they gave up a higher percentage of sacks when he was under center than they did when DJ was under center.

Sacks aside they seemed to be more in synch for DeVito (and Tyrod Taylor),that's what I meant

The not so slippery Daniel Jones seemed constantly running for his life
Napoleon- "If you have a cannon- USE IT"

Gman329

Ya know, I was hopeful when I first embarked on this thread, that it wouldn't become just another Daniel Jones debate....but alas!  Here we are again.

I am still very concerned that we haven't improved the OL enough to make a big difference.  Looking at the PFF scores, it seems that we signed a slightly better brand of lousy. And if Schmitz doesn't improve markedly, any improvement in the overall unit will be negligible. Just like last year, I'm more hopeful than confident.  Much more.