Interesting observation from the Owner's Meeting

[Bob In PA]

If you had asked me this question before Wilson, I'd have said a couple 3rd rounders perhaps a 2nd rounder next year and a 3rd this year.  Basically not enough to get it done.

Post Wilson signing...nothing.  I'd rather have Hunter or Carter at this point.

Gm: All true, but suppose we offer Wilson and [fill in the blank with picks] to move to Pick One and draft Ward (whom guy I'm not sold on, but I'd be ok with it - the Giants knows more about him than me). I haven't given up on this thought, although @MightyGiants has offered a good reason why it doesn't make sense. Bob

[MightyGiants]

Gm: All true, but suppose we offer Wilson and [fill in the blank with picks] to move to Pick One and draft Ward (whom guy I'm not sold on, but I'd be ok with it - the Giants knows more about him than me). I haven't given up on this thought, although @MightyGiants has offered a good reason why it doesn't make sense. Bob

I did?   

[Bob In PA]

I did?   

Rich: You wrote it's unlikely Giants would have signed Wilson only to trade him away, which is correct. That (to me) doesn't rule out trading him away. It's clearly not a direct analogy, but remember that the Giants drafted Rivers and traded him for Eli. If they could do that, they could do my scenario. Bob

[kartanoman]

https://x.com/PLeonardNYDN/status/1907053917856317775


How much would you be okay with the Giants giving up, to trade to the first overall pick to get Cam Ward?

Can't two guys have a cup of coffee, shooting the breeze, in peace without all this insinuation?

Golllll-eeeee!

[Bob In PA]

Can't two guys have a cup of coffee, shooting the breeze, in peace without all this insinuation?

Golllll-eeeee!

k-man: You're 99 percent correct. The other one percent is... during draft season!!! Bob

[kartanoman]

k-man: You're 99 percent correct. The other one percent is... during draft season!!! Bob

Lol, Bob! A light-hearted comment to stir the pot with a    .

Peace!

[Just_jimmy]

Imagine we had just lost that stupid, pointless game we won...

Then we'd be talking about getting Ward with the first pick we held, or we'd be talking about pulling in a haul and picking archie next year.



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[MightyGiants]

Imagine we had just lost that stupid, pointless game we won...

Then we'd be talking about getting Ward with the first pick we held, or we'd be talking about pulling in a haul and picking archie next year.



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I am torn on this.  I mean, it's very tempting to consider this very valid point.  On the other hand. logically and emotionally, there is little benefit to playing the "if only" game.

[MrGap92]

I am torn on this.  I mean, it's very tempting to consider this very valid point.  On the other hand. logically and emotionally, there is little benefit to playing the "if only" game.

I wonder if half the people who want Arch, would still be saying they do, if he was not a Manning.

[MightyGiants]

I wonder if half the people who want Arch, would still be saying they do, if he was not a Manning.

I suspect Arch will likely be good.  For me, the issue is half the teams in the league are thinking the same thing.  I am not liking those odds   

[DaveBrown74]

I am hearing the Titans want next year's and 2027's first-round pick.  So I hope Joe isn't that guy because that's too rich for my taste. 

I like Ward, but I think there is a not-insignificant chance he could be more like Winston than Wilson.

What an absolutely ridiculous price, if true. Two first rounders to move up just two spots to take a QB who probably would have been picked behind JJ McCarthy in last year's draft?

I'd laugh in the guy's face if that were his ask and he were actually serious.

[jimc]

I suspect Arch will likely be good.  For me, the issue is half the teams in the league are thinking the same thing.  I am not liking those odds   

There will be a bunch of qb's likely entering the draft next year. We'll get one.

[jimc]

Imagine we had just lost that stupid, pointless game we won...

Then we'd be talking about getting Ward with the first pick we held, or we'd be talking about pulling in a haul and picking archie next year.



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Does anyone think that Ward will develop into a top ten qb? That should be the question you need to answer if you are selecting any QB in any draft.

[Just_jimmy]

I am torn on this.  I mean, it's very tempting to consider this very valid point.  On the other hand. logically and emotionally, there is little benefit to playing the "if only" game.

It wasn't "what if" at the time Rich.  We held the 1st overall pick and only had to lose 2 more games in a season we couldn't buy a win anyway.

We blew it by winning a meaningless game. 

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[madbadger]

I don't want to give up multiple first-round picks.  I also expressed by reservation for Ward.

That said, I would be willing to give up a good deal to take Ward (if Schoen and Daboll believe in him).  The team would have Ward on a cheap deal for 3 or 4 years, and free agency can help fill the holes those lost picks would create.

If we're patient we can have our cake and eat it too. I think between Wilson and Winston they can push drafting a quarterback for another year. The hidden benefit of that is it gives the Giants one last chance to evaluate Daboll before letting him pick the franchise quarterback. If he gets fired after this year there is no guarantee the new coach will value Ward similarly.