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NGT- Giants Stadium with an all grass pitch for World Cup Soccer

Started by MightyGiants, June 11, 2025, 10:08:22 AM

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DaveBrown74

Quote from: AZGiantFan on June 13, 2025, 05:53:25 PMI think pitch is used in the MLS.

Ok, if that's the case, then fair enough.

I realize now it probably didn't read this way, but I wasn't intending to be overly serious with the original comment.

kartanoman

Stadium, pitch, whatever you feel comfortable with is fine. Soccer/futbol/"Association Football," it's all the same. Down Under, where Australian Football (aka "footy," the AFL [Australian Football League]) calls it the "ground (as in the Melbourne Cricket Ground, or better known as the "MCG")," soccer "grounds" are referred to as one and the same.

So, there you have it. @DaveBrown74 is doing his best Billy Joel with "I didn't start the fire ..." but it's always burnin' since the world's been turnin' ...

Which reminds me ...

Back in 1990, I spent every nickel I had buying tickets to Billy Joel's concert at the (then known as) Syracuse Carrier Dome because my girlfriend, at the time, was madly in love with him ... blah blah blah. Anyway, that dude was rockin' the Dome at his peak! So well, in fact, that my left eardrum, which I had caved in during a major concussion during a full-sprint head-to-head clash with an opponent on a soccer ... field/pitch/ground (who the heck cares at this point anyway!!!) and the decibel level was so loud my left ear started bleeding profusely. I feel this wet in my ear, touch my hand and, yikes, red blood coming out!!! Anyway, point being I drove from east of Utica to Syracuse in a blizzard, blew most of my paycheck on the concert and an overnight at the Sheraton on the Thruway Exit 38. So, all of that banter to ask one simple question: when Syracuse's Soccer Team plays in the dome, that "stuff" they claim to play on is NOT a field. It is NOT a pitch. It MIGHT be a ground but a MIGHTY HARD one at that. Have any of you played a sport at "The Dome?" It wasn't the worst experience of my life, but you definitely have to wrap your ankles for the next two weeks or so after.

Lesson learned: stick to good old-fashioned grass, and call it WHATEVER you'd like!

Peace!


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DaveBrown74

Since the World Cup's formal name is the "FIFA World Cup", and since FIFA is the " Fédération Internationale de Football Association", then perhaps we ought to all refer to this sport as "football" throughout next summer as long as the tournament is being played. We'll see how that goes over with people here!


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AZGiantFan

A little history lesson.  Back in the late 1800s, early 1900s "public" schools in England (which were actually private schools), had rugby as their main sport for the boys, particularly at those that were boarding schools.  We're talking Eton type schools.  For them rugby was football.  It was a rough sport.  There was another foot-based, gentler, sport and to distinguish it from real football, it was called soccer football, don't ask me why.  So when Brits get upset at us calling the sport soccer, we could remind them that they started it.  I think it was the inversion of popularity between rugby football and soccer football that made the default meaning of football, to the Brits, soccer.  But the point is that soccer wasn't an American term, like so many other things it came to us via the Brits.

And while it is not uncommon for Aussies to call their version, AFL, footy, It is also not uncommon for Brits to call their version of football footy. 

And for @kartanoman , I just finished watching the excellent Australian series Mr. InBetween, and several times there was a TV with an AFL game playing in the background, and every time I saw that I thought of you.  I've watched a few games over the years and it looks like a great sport, played by crazy people.  If it were more readily available without adding yet another streaming channel I would watch it fairly regularly.  I feel the same way about cricket, although I understand the AFL rules far better than I understand the rules of cricket.

I'll close by attributing the things in the first paragraph to having copiously read PG Wodehouse's early "public school stories.  Which gives me an idea for a Front Porch thread.
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spiderblue43

Quote from: MightyGiants on June 13, 2025, 08:04:03 AMA cooling tower that you would find on top of a building



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Haha,Rich...good one. So pathetic it shows the decay of this franchise. Cronyism..dreary vision. But that's a Mara. When the owner don't know..but cronies flow... that's A Mara

MightyGiants

Quote from: spiderblue43 on Today at 07:57:56 AMHaha,Rich...good one. So pathetic it shows the decay of this franchise. Cronyism..dreary vision. But that's a Mara. When the owner don't know..but cronies flow... that's A Mara

There are things that I fault the Giants organization for, but the stadium had bigger issues.  The primary being:

1) Compromise-  The Giants wanted a brick retro look and the Jets wanted a modern chrome and glass look.  This was their compromise

2) Gimmicks-  The teams were sold on the silly blue/green personalization that looked better in drawing and as a concept than how it really worked in real life.  Gray with blue and green lights don't do much during the day and even at night mockups look better than the real thing

3) Sometimes, artist renderings can make things look better.

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@spiderblue43 I fixed the pictures
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